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  • in reply to: best place in the US for kids with ADHD #85917
    SkinOfMyTeeth
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    he is American too, technically

    Hey @dragoncita,

    He is a United States Citizen by birth. There’s no technically there. If he doesn’t have a US passport, get him one soon. It will make a big difference later in his life should he need it or want it.

    Back to your op question. Which school district would be best is difficult to say. But, perhaps a place with a large Mexican population in a large school district not too far from Mexico would make sense. Look into California’s Coachella Valley area. The main cities there are Palm Springs, Cathedral City, Rancho Mirage, Palm Desert and a few more. In the Coachella Valley there is a population of over a million people, but it has a certain “small town feel to it”.

    Many Americans use the term “Hispanic” as if it’s all homogeneous. While they do share a common language, there is a difference between Cubans, South Americans and Mexicans in culture. I’d assume you’d want a more Mexican culture and that area has a Mexican influence. It does get a tad bit warm in the summer (so much so that they won’t even admit it’s hot if it’s under 100). But, it doesn’t rain much.

    in reply to: Teenager with sleep problems #85449
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    Teenager’s on ADD meds with sleep problems seems to be a normal side effect.

    My experience with my son has been that sleeping on meds is a problem with few real answers.

    My son’s med refusal is what got me out from lurking. He’s at that age where forcing him to take meds just isn’t realistic. He’ll be 18 in almost no time and forcing him now would in my opinion almost certainly make him stop 100% when he turns 18 and needs to study in college.

    So, my husband and I have probed to get to the “real reasons” for med refusal. I think we’ve uncovered some real reasons and also some made up ones my son has found online. Hey, they can use Dr. Google just like the rest of us.

    Not sleeping has been an on going problem.

    I remember when I first started learning about ADD meds and sleep problems. The doctor recommended a strong morning instant release dose, a milder afternoon dose and benadryl at bedtime.

    We didn’t agree to medication on the first visit. I did my research (as most of us do) and on the 2nd doctor’s visit I asked the doctor, “why not just give him three shots of espresso in the morning, two shots of espresso in the afternoon and a shot of whiskey before bed?”

    The doctor was not amused -but I insisted on an answer. I have caffeine in the morning and if I have any caffeine in the afternoon, I have trouble getting to sleep. So, I was really worried.

    But, the improvement in grades and ability to participate in school is what convinced me to stick with it.

    Recently, things have been easier.

    in reply to: Still being treated like a kid #84993
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    Hey @Katy_G ,

    Welcome to the wonderful world of adulthood.

    I’m in my early late 40s (read that as 58 years old) and seriously my Dad still gets in “Dad Mode” every once in a while. About a year ago or so I was cleaning up both the dishes after a family gathering and my Dad’s tendency to keep a less than clean kitchen.

    My nephew (in his middle 20s) and I were loading the dishwasher, cleaning counter tops, and putting items that my dad had not put away in the cupboards. So, basically being productive and nice enough to clean his kitchen in the process.

    All of a sudden, I got a “Dad Blast” from the living room, “turn that water off in the kitchen, what are you doing?”.

    OK, when I was younger I’d have tried to explain myself, “geez, we’re working in her cleaning dishes and counter tops” or I’d have just shut the water off.

    But, since I’m an adult, have lived with my partner since I was 21 years old and have managed to keep myself employed, clean, fed and living indoors with my own income I took another tact.

    First, I quietly said to my nephew, “if you’ve ever wondered when your father will stop yelling at you, I’m 57 years old and he still yells at me.” Then, I turned my attention to my father and said, “The water is on because I need it on”.

    That was that. He neither asked questions nor made any more demands. I’d also point out he failed to say thank you for cleaning up his kitchen counters (which desperately needed a wipe down in places and the full scrub in others).

    My point, for me the “change” in the way I’m treated by the adults in my life happened not when I changed the way they behaved. Rather, the “change” came from inside me. When I had the confidence and conviction that as an adult I seriously don’t need to explain myself.

    Now, keep in mind, it was his house, his kitchen, his water. But, my sister in law had brought the meal she’d made at her house, we all enjoyed it and I and my nephew were cleaning up. My dad was just along for the ride.

    Another example. My partner and I have a strict rule in our house. Excluding a grave national emergency, we either mute or turn the tv machine off when we eat. My partner and I go to my dads by ourselves for lunch or dinner every other week or so. Most of the time we bring the meal (like take out chicken or pizza and salad) with us.

    When it comes time to eat, I turn the tv machine on mute. My dad keeps the volume up so loud. I don’t complain about that. When I was a child, he was working around loud industrial machines that have left him very hard of hearing. He doesn’t put his hearing aids in when he’s alone, he just turns the volume up.

    Now, this started years back. Even when I lived on the other side of the country, I’d come to visit my mom and dad before my mom passed. Then I was in my early late 30s (read that as 40s). When dinner time came, I’d mute the tv. My mother was grateful for that. But, my dad would say, “why did you turn that down? I can’t hear it.”

    I’d answer, “Because I came to visit with you two and it’s not ‘breaking news’ if I read it in yesterday’s paper. It’s nice to have conversation at dinner.”

    Today, my dad will mute the tv and come to table when we’re ready to eat. See? They can be trained, it’s just taken my dad 80 some years – to be fair TV wasn’t invented for the fist quarter of a century he was alive.

    I don’t know if that helped. But the TLDR is this – I couldn’t change the way my parents look at me or speak to me, I can change the way I interpenetrate what they said and how I react to it. The change was in me not them.

    SkinOfMyTeeth
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    He could never do the military unfortunately. The physical part of it would kill him. He has scoliosis, chronic joint pain, asthma and connective tissue disease which causes the pain as well as severe skin sensitivity (he went on a field trip in 8th grade to Washington DC- he came home with 2nd degree burns from the sun).

    The requirements for PE are a state education requirement. If he does not complete the requirements, that is fine and we will re-develop a plan for next year after this year is complete.

    I get that PE is a requirement.

    What must also be true is that a child with “scoliosis, chronic joint pain, asthma and connective tissue disease” can be excused from PE. You only mentioned that he was failing PE, no other courses. Won’t his doctor get him out of PE?

    I’ve read all your posts and am 99.9% sure it’s PE that’s causing his school refusal.

    Of course, I could be wrong, but sometimes it takes a view from afar to see the details. This is going back a ways but, when I was in school a doctor’s note that a student wasn’t physically able to participate would waive the PE requirement.

    If it is just the PE class, he’ll fail it next year as well. I’m running down the list of activities we did in PE and can’t see how any of them from track and field to wrestling could even be attempted let alone successfully done by a student with all those physical problems.

    I gotta tell you, I’m on your son’s side with this one versus the school. PE would be a living hell and I wouldn’t go either. Most likely he just can’t or is too embarrassed to state it that way.

    You are, unfortunately, stuck in the middle with the school making ridiculous demands to hold his tech (as if you can’t be trusted to not given in and give them to him) and your son not communicating exactly what the problem is.

    Something tells me money is at the root of the school’s stubborn stance. I don’t know, but would bet they’ll lose funding if he gets excused from PE or finishes his diploma remotely.

    SkinOfMyTeeth
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    He could never do the military unfortunately. The physical part of it would kill him. He has scoliosis, chronic joint pain, asthma and connective tissue disease which causes the pain as well as severe skin sensitivity (he went on a field trip in 8th grade to Washington DC- he came home with 2nd degree burns from the sun).

    Why is a child with those problems required to take gym class?

    I realize that every school is different with different requirements to be excused from gym. However, if I had those problems I think I’d hate gym class as well.

    He told me today he feels like no one ever really listens to him and I thought to myself yeah that’s how I feel about his school not listening to me!! Ugghhh !!

    Maybe you need to tell the school that yourself? They have remote learning but don’t want him to take it? They demand they hold his electronics (as if that would stop him from using yours?). I know school boards and the legal system require us parents to follow the law. We are not however without voice.

    SkinOfMyTeeth
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    Hey @DCT2019,

    Welcome.

    I’ve always noticed that family seems to think they have a licence to comment on things that anyone else would never dare. I’ve gotten, “You’re getting fat”, “Why are you wearing that?”, “When are you going to get married?”, “Your hair is going grey”. Seriously, there is something about family that just seems to make them say things they’d never even think of saying to a non-family member.

    I’ve even had family tell me to be stop talking when I was just having a conversation with someone and there wasn’t anything else going on.

    So, the point here is simple. Take family for what they are. You can choose your friends, you can decide where to go to college and where to work. But, you can’t pick your family.

    Regarding driving – you know what’s safe. You don’t have to explain it to anyone. If you want explain you don’t drive because of your ADHD, do so. If you just want to tell them your doctor told you not to drive, do that.

    in reply to: Med Refusal – Is This Reason Normal? #83561
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    @Penny,

    Thank you. I’d write more, but am literally on my way out the door for the weekend.

    SOMT

    in reply to: Med Refusal – Is This Reason Normal? #83340
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    Second, the law says they must accommodate students with disabilities and offer them a “free and appropriate education” just the same as non-disabled students. That means they have to accommodate so kids with disabilities have the same opportunity for learning and school “success.” The law DOES NOT say, “provide a free and appropriate public education to only students with disabilities who take medicine.”

    Thank you for your response and the pamphlet.

    The school is very much aware that they have to provide children with disabilities the same education. Trust me when I say they are very creative in the way they use both language and the school rules.

    When it comes to discussing meds, they don’t break right into asking if he’s taking them. It’s more that they want to know if I’m following all “doctor’s instructions” or if I’ve kept all followup appointments for him, etc. Sometimes they directly ask if he’s taking his “doctor prescribed medications” but more out of “concern” for his health and treatment.

    I know they really just want him on meds, but can’t come right out and say so.

    Even when he takes his meds he’s not a model student, but, he’s on time, follows the school dress code, participates in class, finishes his homework (and that alone is amazing), does his reading assignments. I’m not in the classroom, but I do get reports from some of the other parents that he, like many high school students, can be difficult as well.

    So, on meds, he’s never received a formal write up or suspension.

    Off meds is another story. He has a few formal write ups for violations of school policy. None are for any form of violent behavior, just things like being late, not finishing homework, cutting up in class, etc.

    To get around the federal law that they provide him an education, I think their plan is to write him up at every possible junction, then suspend him (it’s an “in school” suspension). With enough suspensions they can transfer him out. So, the transfer wouldn’t be because he’s not taking his meds, it would be because he has the required number of write ups. Yes, it’s a distinction without a difference. But, that is how I see it playing out.

    OK, there is some good news. In a word, “driving”. He really wants to get his drivers licence and failed his first attempt at the written test.

    I’m not happy that he failed it (to be frank, I’m not sure I could pass it and I’ve been driving for decades). I do, however, think it was a wake up for him. Maybe. It’s not uncommon for parents to have different dynamics with their kids. My husband has a very different style and relationship with my son. He works while I stay home.

    Recently, we’ve tried a new approach. My husband took him for the driving test. My husband has been talking to him more than before about his med refusals. Frankly for my husband talk to him directly about it at all would be “more”. So, the next doctor’s appointment my husband (who rarely misses a day at work) is taking off to take my son to the doctor.

    It’s not easy in many ways to step back. I don’t think I’ve said before that my son is adopted (I also don’t think I’ve said that he has two Dads). Seriously, I don’t think he or his friends care about that one way or the other. At least half of them come from families that through divorce and remarriage have a complicated family tree with aunts, uncles, cousins, step-brothers/sisters, half brothers/sisters. It’s just not a big deal.

    So, there’s progress. The one thing my husband and I agree on is that he can’t start meds to get what he wants (like a drivers licences), then stop them until he wants something else. It’s either every day (or at least every school day) or not at all.

    I’m an optimistic person by nature. I really do think we’ll find a way through this.

    Lastly, please understand this, if you met my son, you’d like him. He’s a really nice person. Yes, he’s a teenager, but he gets on with people. He might meet you, say hello then go to his room to be alone – but, you wouldn’t feel as if he’d treated you badly.

    There is a light at the end of the tunnel.

    in reply to: My mom doesn't believe ADHD is real #83157
    SkinOfMyTeeth
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    Hey @rahul29112002 ,

    First, your frustration is valid and real.

    You didn’t give your age and it’s not in your profile. No matter your age you deserve to be listened to and believed.

    There are two things I can think that might help:

    1. Start a paper log of your symptoms. Keep it short – date, time, symptoms. Ask your mother to help with it. She might notice somethings you miss. Patient’s home logs are a valid medical tool. Many people with high blood pressure and/or diabetes keep a home log to help their doctor know what’s happening.

    2. Ask your mother to take you for a 2nd opinion from another doctor. In your post you mention three people, yourself, your mother and the medical professional that diagnosed you (as well as a gathering of family members). The main people who seem to be having a disagreement on what to do are you, your mother and the doctor (although you said medical professional). So, a 2nd opinion from a different doctor would balance out the dynamics.

    Mostly, remember this – you’ve obviously been doing some work towards finding a solution to your problems. All of that work didn’t happen instantly, it took time, persuasion, self education and most likely a bit of “stick to it-ness”. So, if it takes a few more weeks to either for you and your mother to come to a meeting of your minds, that’s not really so bad.

    Lastly, your mother might be concerned about the adverse effects of any medication your put on. That is a legitimate concern on her part – some of the adverse effects might last a lifetime.

    in reply to: Med Refusal – Is This Reason Normal? #83114
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    From my first post:

    Today, my son takes his meds during the week without issue. The lower dose seems to be working fine as his grades are good and he’s even studying for the driver’s test. Weekends are his to decide. Some weekends he has a break. Recently, he’s taken the meds to study for the driver’s test. But, it’s his choice. What he does in bed after the lights go out is not my business. But, it’s an fact of life and I think most parents would be about as baffled as I was to figure it out.

    I have a friend who whenever I’d say that things were going well would say, “this too shall pass”. Oh boy, was she right.

    Yup, more med refusals. It’s one thing to require that a child take a pill. It’s an entirely different thing when that “child” is well under 2 years from being a legal adult and smart enough and strong enough to simply refuse.

    He’s in full “shut down mode”. The school isn’t happy, I’m not happy, my son isn’t happy, my husband isn’t happy and I’ve not asked the mailman, but he might not be happy either.

    The school has asked me why I’m not “giving” him his meds. Seriously? After all we’ve been through, the school thinks I’m the reason he doesn’t take his meds? I’ve met with school “nurse” (I put it in quotes because I’m not really sure she has an RN or LPN and her title isn’t “nurse” but that’s the role she fills), the teachers, the assistant principle.

    I keep pointing out his age and that I really can’t force him to take the pill. I’ve offered to let the school nurse give him the pill, but she’s not keen on that idea. I assume because she knows as well as I that he’ll just not take the pill.

    I thought we had it fixed – but, something else is wrong. He’s almost 17 years old. The school is talking about sending him to a school for problem students (like a boot camp), but he technically doesn’t qualify for making him go there as he doesn’t have the required number of write ups. In fact, he’s never been suspended – yet.

    I understand the school’s frustration and get the feeling they plan on bringing the hammer down with write ups and suspensions to just get rid of him. I’ve explained this to him, that once he has the required number of write ups he can be transferred to the other school.

    I don’t know why I’m writing this – I don’t have any questions and I don’t have any answers. The doctor is next and I have hope he’ll get to the root of the refusal.

    After some of the responses to my first post I’m now doubtful that the adverse sexual side effects were real. I don’t know that for sure, but it seemingly isn’t a normal adverse effect of the meds.

    I wish I knew that I was the only parent going through this, but I know I’m not.

    in reply to: Son Left Alone in Classroom (Purposefully, for an Hour) #82510
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    Three words “Duty of Care”.

    Of course laws vary by state and country. But, there is a basic standard that anyone accepts when taking care of children. A responsibility to provide the same care any reasonable person would.

    I know the school would most likely deny having left your son behind on purpose (as demonstrated by the “Where were you” line). But, even threatening them with legal action for having left your child in a room alone for an hour might bring them to their senses.

    Private school teachers are underpaid and normally have poor benefits packages. Nevertheless, that’s not an excuse to abuse a child.

    I don’t know if you can put a recording device in his backpack. But, that would be my next step. When it’s a “he said, they said” situation, a recording tells the truth.

    in reply to: Med Refusal – Is This Reason Normal? #81587
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    Hey @DdylanCato,

    I don’t know the age at which a person outgrows ADD o ADHD. I know that it does happen, but really don’t know if there is a given age.

    Yes, you are correct. Many college students and even parents are either buying ADD meds illegally to focus study, lose weight or focus on their jobs. This is another valid reason why some people are watched to make sure they swallow their pill.

    Your adverse effects, the same ones you saw on the documentary, are real. They deserve to be addressed by a medical professional.

    Why the neighbor chooses to not put her child on meds is not something I can’t answer. I don’t know the situation with your neighbor and really can’t answer it.

    I know, I say it every time – but it’s required – I’m not a doctor and anything I wrote should be taken as coming from a layman not a medical professional.

    in reply to: My 6 year old son may have ODD or.. #81541
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    “@elly87 said He was placed on Vyvanse 10 mg as his school threatened to expel him due to his wandering/fighting behavior if he wasn’t medicated.”

    When I read these statements I want to scream. On every forum I’ve read I see many members say, “I’m not a doctor” then give the experience not their medical diagnosis.

    Many schools are way too quick to decide a child has ADD, OCD, ODD or some other problem then “recommend” a particular doctor. They recommend that doctor because they know he/she prescribes meds after only a very few visits.

    For a school administrator to threaten parents with expulsion if they don’t medicate their child is practicing medicine without a license. I think more parents should report such behavior to the proper authorities.

    Having said that, for the school to point out that a child’s behavior could result in expulsion, then, to suggest that the parents find a therapist or doctor to make sure the child isn’t having an issue would be fine. But, to put it as “put him on medicine or we’ll toss him on the street” is seriously one of the reasons many parents don’t trust school administrators.

    My worry when it came to my son was that stimulants in the morning (and perhaps afternoon) combined with benadryl at bedtime seemed to be about the same thing as giving him three shots of espresso before school, two shots of espresso at lunch and a shot of whiskey at bedtime.

    At first, that is exactly what I felt was happening. It took many adjustments of meds to get it right. Changing meds, changing dosages, trying time released versus instant release, moving the benadryl to “as needed” instead of every night, giving him autonomy over weekends (right now he’s on seven days a week – but weekends are his choice). My son is much older and obviously a 6 year old isn’t going to get the same choices.

    But, if he’s worse on meds than off – which is how I interpreted your post, obviously a trip back to the doctor is required.

    It’s so easy to forget something you wanted to ask the doctor. Write your questions down or print them from your computer. I’ve found paper is essential for this to work. Just having them in my phone isn’t as effective. I even use this for my own doctor’s appointments.

    Put the paper on the exam table so the doctor sees it as soon as he/she walks in. I use a lined notebook paper and a sharpie to write my questions or concerns.

    Doctors appreciate it, it makes it quick to get to your core concerns. I try to keep it to my most basic questions and not a question about everything Dr. Google has told me.

    You said you didn’t make a complete list above of his over stimulated behavior. I’d recommend two sheets of paper. On the “main sheet” write that he’s over stimulated. On the other piece write just a few examples.

    I’m not a doctor, but if his behavior is worse now than before, something is seriously wrong. Either he didn’t have ADD, ODD or anything wrong and the school has pressured you into putting him on needless meds or he’s on the wrong meds.

    One last thing. In my experience, second opinion doctor’s are fearless. When they know their just providing a 2nd opinion they really open up. I’ve also had the same doctors do a 180 degree turn when I come back and want them to act on what they told me the first time. These were my doctor’s not my son’s.

    I’d wish you luck – but you don’t need luck, you just need a parents desire to do what’s best for their child.

    in reply to: Med Refusal – Is This Reason Normal? #81520
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    Hey @DdlanCATO ,

    Keep in mind that I am not a doctor and have no medical training. An “observed dose” is not punishment, it’s a valid medical treatment. It’s not only used for ADD cases, but other types of treatments as well.

    I can see where you’d develop a resentment over that. If the drugs had no adverse effects why would they force you to open your mouth to check that you took them. You’re old enough and most likely large enough to simple refuse to take the pill. Also, you could vomit on purpose right after taking the meds to get them out of your system.

    As I said before as you get older, it will more and more a fight of wills and one you’ll figure out a way to win. Forcing you to take your meds at the school nurse’s office isn’t convincing you that taking the meds is a good idea.

    I’ve been told by doctors, and this makes sense to me, there is no such thing as a “side effect”. If I take a prescribed drug for blood pressure (and I do) and it makes me dizzy, that is not a “side effect” that’s an effect of the medication.

    My husband takes a medication that helps him empty his bladder easier, a “side effect” is that it lowers his blood pressure.

    The same exact medication can be prescribed to lower blood pressure, and it has a “side effect” of making it easier for me to empty their bladder.

    So, the same drug prescribed for two different reasons can have have two effects – it just depends on why it was prescribed which is the “side effect. Why mention this? Because any effect of a drug is an effect not a “side effect”. Some effects are “desired” some are “adverse”.

    Chemo therapy can cause hair loss which is a direct effect of the medication. It kills cancer. So, patients deal with the hair loss to get the “desired effect” of killing cancer. Hair loss (ie, going bald), is an effect of the drugs – just not a desired effect. “Side effect” is a nice way of saying, “an effect you won’t like”.

    As far as the adverse effects you are feeling from taking your ADD meds, (keep in mind I’m not a doctor), they are most likely adverse effects of the meds and not just you not used to feeling normal. That these meds have adverse effects is well documented.

    I’ve said this before, keep a log of dates and times that you experience these adverse effects and show it to your prescribing doctor. Make copies and show them to the nurse administering your meds.

    What I would not recommend is refusing the meds by sticking the pill high in you cheek between your gums and cheek so it looks like you took it, pretending to gag on he pill as if you can’t swallow it and spitting it on the floor, pretending that the meds are giving you migraines or horrible side effects such as faking a seizure or even vomiting up the pill after taking it . This is just going to start a confrontation – one you most likely will lose and one that will result in hard feelings between you, you parents, your doctor and your school. All of those “tricks” for not taking meds has been tried many times before and schools, nurses and parents are well aware of them.

    Your adverse effects are real and deserve to be addressed. So, start you log and start asking for them to be addressed. Getting involved in your medical decisions and feeling like a partner and not a prisoner is something you will have to initiate.

    in reply to: Med Refusal – Is This Reason Normal? #81399
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    Hey @ddylancato ,

    i feel like i am being punished for something i cannot help

    You’re original posts disappeared. First, I believe you regarding how the meds affect your brain. You deserve to be as free from adverse effects as possible. Communication with your doctor and parents is essential. If you don’t feel as if they are listening to you, I’d recommend a written list with dates and times on it. Take that list of adverse effects with you to your next doctor’s appointment.

    If you still aren’t getting relief, I’d recommend speaking with a trusted spiritual adviser or perhaps an aunt or uncle that you can confide in.

    At your age you are just about old enough to start refusing meds and make it stick. As bad as things are now, palming your meds, cheeking your meds or just refusing to take them will only make things worse. In your deleted post, you said “FORCED TO TAKE” in all caps. By that I assume you mean an observed dose- in that your parents or the school nurse watches you take your meds.

    That can feel like punishment and cause huge resentments. Even if the adults have your best interest in mind, you certainly deserve to be heard and taken seriously. From the number of different medications you’ve tried (listed above), I’d say that your doctor has worked to get the right dosage and medication.

    But, if you still feel as if you are being punished that’s not the reason they want you to take your meds. They all want you to have a good future and the doctor has made his/her best medical judgement that these meds are best for your school and family life. Be honest with them.

    I know how if feels to be “lumped in with everyone else” or to feel as if I’m being “singled out for punishment” by an employer or some government regulation. Frustration can set in and I can make a decision that isn’t good for myself. The example I’m talking about is different from ADD meds, but the feelings I had were similar.

    I had to take a TB test to get a job. It’s a simple test where they inject a tiny amount of fluid into both forearms (sometimes it’s only one injection into one forearm, but my test was in both arms). When they inject into both arms one arm is not supposed to have any reaction at all (that’s the one with the test for TB), the other arm is supposed to get an allergic reaction to a known irritant. I was told to come back in three days. I did and the arm with the TB test had no reaction. The arm with known irritant had a reaction it had a pimple like sore about 2 cm across. Not so bad, right? Yeah, they told me that would happen. What they didn’t tell me was that the arm that had the reaction would keep reacting. The “pimple” kept growing and growing. By the time it was done reacting it itched, looked horrible I was thinking it would leave a scar it was that bad. I got the job. The next year, I made every excuse I could find to not take that test again. I really really felt like the doctors and nurses had lied to me about the anergy (anergy is the opposite of allergy) test and the reaction I’d have. If I didn’t take the test, I’d be fired. So, I went to the clinic and complained wildly about the prior years reaction. They took a chest xray instead. Bingo! And a negative finding on a chest xray is good for two years, not one.

    The point of that story is that if I had not told them my problems, I wouldn’t have found out about the alternative test. An xray cost more than the skin test for TB. That is why they don’t offer it as an option at first. Today most TB tests are done without the anergy test (the one that is supposed to react). I don’t wonder why – I bet lots of patients complained about it.

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