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  • in reply to: 20 mg vyvanase for 4yr old son. Too much to soon? #115671

    iix ADHD iix
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    I would have never wanted to be on meds until probably 18. At the age of 4 I was not even close to being ready for psych meds. No way at all I’d give someone that young medicine. Never.

  • in reply to: Hyperfocus and high dose stimulant need #115119

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    I’m on 90 mg of Adderall XR a day and I still feel like I could go to 30 mg 4x/Day. I don’t know if it is safe and there are so very few studies that I can find of people taking doses that high. If I did, that would be 120 mg Adderall XR in one day, but I wouldn’t necessarily have to take that high of a dose every day. I just wish I could find out more about safety and long-term issues, but I highly doubt I ever will.

  • in reply to: Any Tips for Overcoming "Anticipatory" Task Avoidance? #114974

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    How to beat it? I like to take an approach like this:

    Here’s what I’m doing, here’s how I’m going to do it, here’s what I will do to complete it, and I will have it done by this time. Nothing else will matter to me during that time. If the world is on fire and my dog is dying and there are 20 snipers outside my window scoped in on me, I’m still going to do this set of tasks A to B to C to get this task #1 done in this way and nothing else is going to happen but that.

    *You gotta talk yourself into it like that and that’s just an example of how I was trying to use humor to basically say that you should almost pretend to forget the other tasks and just get in a comfortable area where you can work that you can do only the task you are wanting to do. Do just that task and that task alone.

    Just eat and go the bathroom and stuff beforehand before doing the task and have water with you so you don’t have to walk to another room or get up and get distracted.


  • iix ADHD iix
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    Try journaling each dose and annotating it a bit. Pay attention to what you’re eating (if anything) and what you’re drinking prior/after you take a dose, and if you find a particular beverage or meal makes you more tired that day, you would write that down. Be diligent about it, but not obsessive. Just wrote the kind of stuff I do below here to give you an example of how I sometimes keep track of medicine doses and how they are affecting me with notes and how I am sleeping that day, what I am eating/drinking/doing around the time of the dose. The more detailed the better you can really try to get into the nitty-gritty of when you feel the most focused/unfocused.

    Try something like this where you list each dose with an annotation:

    5 mg Adderall tablet didn’t do anything for me
    10 mg Adderall felt good
    15 mg Adderall felt good as 1.5 10 mg tablet split over the course of 3.5 hours.
    20 mg Adderall made me tired if I took second 5 mg after a certain duration of time.
    Beyond 25 mg, I feel my anxiety is worse; especially if I don’t sleep well.

    Here’s another way you can do what I did above there but just with commas separating the list:

    30 mg Vyvanse felt too weak, 40 mg Vyvanse felt more helpful, 50 mg Vyvanse felt very good, 60 mg Vyvanse was sometimes good but made me more sleepy, 70 mg Vyvanse was overkill and made me tired the whole day

  • in reply to: Hyperfocus and high dose stimulant need #111736

    iix ADHD iix
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    Hey Natha, thanks for your time in replying. I really can relate to a lot of your experiences! I also metabolize very quickly and struggle with stimulant-induced bipolar and stimulant-induced depression symptoms; especially if the doses are higher. The issue is how do you help someone with a super fast metabolism that needs higher doses, yet the problem is the higher doses will further exacerbate other issues.

    For me, it becomes a seesaw of pros and cons and unfortunately just what am I willing to deal with on any given day.

    I also have adrenal fatigue symptoms and low testosterone related to central sleep apnea, so I am in in a whirlwind of a crisis myself.

  • in reply to: Hyperfocus and high dose stimulant need #115118

    iix ADHD iix
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    Is Agomelatine an SSRI? I’m not familiar with that specific name. Does Agomelatine have other names? I know anything that agonizes serotonin or increases it can sometimes give me worse focus issues; particularly the SSRI’s.

    I had mixed experiences with SNRI’s. I HATED coming off them, but I did find a lot of short-term (probably 3 weeks I’d approximate) of helpful depression benefit. Tolerance is always really hard and for me taking SNRI’s and stimulants was absolutely impossible with the exception of caffeine or low dose Ritalin/Focalin timed away from the SNRI dose.

    It’s really hard for me to be on Zoloft 75 mg, but I am just because it helps counter some of the neagtive side effects of the stims like appetite and sleep (to a degree).


  • iix ADHD iix
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    What helped me is take an SSRI at different times of the ADHD medicine. Don’t take too much ADHD medicine if the higher doses consistently make him tired. Don’t change the dose drastically from one day to the next. Ideally, getting Genesight can help A TON if you can afford it.

    Learning how long each medicine dose is benefiting you and what speed of release the medicine is can do a LOT to improve how tired your son is getting.

    Is it imperative to obtain enough sleep and if stimulants are messing sleep up I recommend first trying some sleep medicines, melatonin/melatonin complexes/hydroxyzine/or even benzo’s/sedative hypnotics like ativan/lunesta if you have to.

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