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  • in reply to: Mental illness as a result of using amphetamines #194477

    Various behaviors when observed together are given names to identify the cluster, ADD, ADHD, Inattentive ADD, etc. All of these tendencies come from our individual wiring diagrams. The question has been, “Is behavior due to nature or nurture?” The answer is, yes. Both nature and nurture shape our wiring. Twins separated at birth, one grows up in a household of explosive, angry, randomness. The other grows up in a dependible, loving, encouraging, nurturing environment. The first one will tend towards hypervigilance and fearfulness and possibly anger. the other will be more relaxed and loving and accomplished. The wiring is the same but the environment made changes to the brain and it’s responses. With brain plasticity the first twin can practice better behaviors and modify their tendencies.
    At times we might need some chemical help to mitigate the extreme responses so we can work through the hard parts. In my case there was sexual abuse in childhood that changed how I experienced life. I blame my Inattentive ADD on that abuse. I think that in order to survive, my brain turned down the volume controls on a lot of my inputs. The behavior cluster resulting from that in my case is Inattentive ADD. In trying to work through it to regain full access to my brain I went to a psychiatrist to work on my ADD.
    We tried several meds until we landed on Adderall which worked really well, until it didn’t. I REALLY liked the increased ability to focus, plan, execute and better energy (weirdly, my left sinus drained and I could breathe equally through both nostrils). It was great for several months until it started stimulating brain parts that made me less patient, more verbally aggressive and genarally an ass, which I hadn’t been. I describe it as worked well except it released my inner ash-hole. Fortunately, family and friends voiced their concerns and I told the psychiatrist who suggested adding something to tamp down the aggressive tendencies. I asked if we could change to Nuvigil instead, I didn’t want to take a med to overcome a side effect that would have it’s side effects, etc. He terminated our treatment saying I was too forward with my suggestion. The next few days were… unpleasant since I was out of Adderall and couldn’t taper off.
    If I was hiding the negatives to get the positives I could have had the negative side effects become ingrained due to brain plasticity. It is vital to honestly track behavior patterns going into treatment and during treatment. Without the feedback the doctor cannot modify the treatment. Yes, I can see where Adderall, etc could lead to mental issues. I also think that tapering off the meds that caused the problem would mitigate the negatives.
    I wish there was a method of EEG or something that could evealuate the changes in our brain and see if we are getting more balanced or extreme. I have read about SPECT scans and fMRI scans. I don’t know if they represent a sledge hammer when we only need a small tack hammer. If we could find an optimum SPECT or fMRI scan and adjust meds to achieve that it could be a more direct path to optimize treatment. I wonder if the expense would be justified by the reduced suffering of the patients.

    in reply to: Considering Strattera #128696

    I too have ADD, a sub-type, Inattentive ADD. In doing trials to see what med would be best for me we went through Strattera. For me it had little positive effect. It did a few things for me, it made me ticklish! Surprising, since I have NEVER been ticklish. Ever! A second minor positive was I lost a small food anxiety that I didn’t know I had until it was gone. I didn’t have any other significant changes and we moved on to Adderall which worked to stimulate things in a good way, at first. A few months down the road it over stimulated something and released my inner a.s.s.hole. Ah well, it was good while it was good.

    in reply to: Medication questions #109509

    My psychiatrist took me through a veritable adventure of drugs; strattera, welbutrin, etc.
    He said he wasn’t sure of my ADD and had not heard of Inattentive ADD, I mentioned reviewing the literature on Inattentive ADD.
    I had mentioned to him that the strattera had eliminated a food anxiety that I was unaware of until it was gone. He nearly had a stroke, “Anxiety!? Your scores don’t indicate anxiety!” shaking my chart in the air between us. Holding my finger tips about four feet apart I said, “You are talking of ANXIETY.”
    Moving my hands closer together and holding my fingers about two inches apart, “I’m talking about a sub-clinical level of anxiety.”
    With him it was all or nothing, I guess.
    We ended up on adderal and it worked well by stimulating the under active sections of my brain.
    Everything was awesome!
    Until it wasn’t, other parts of the brain got stimulated as well. Parts that made me less patient, more verbal (in a negative way).
    The doctor rescinded my prescription and I was left with nothing.
    If I had it to do over again, I would work on my patience and negative verbal-ness before mentioning the negative aspects. If I were unable to get things under control in three to six months then I’d mention it.
    Keep working on getting help and/or meds.
    My preference would have been to find a strategy of exercise/diet/behavior therapy to get it under control.
    Unfortunately, none of those singly or in concert helped me, although exercise worked for a short time. But the exercise, have good cognition for a while, exercise and repeat was more than I could keep up…

    in reply to: Doctor has me doubting myself #91991

    To put this succinctly in a phrase, “Their opinions do not negate my experience.”
    There are a number of symptom questionnaires that will help you to understand what you are experiencing.
    At amenclinics.com their questionnaire is based on solid science and 80,000+ personality tests, thete are others too.
    I too had a psychiatrist nearly have a fit when I told him that one of the trial drugs relieved a “food anxiety” that I didn’t know I had until it was gone.
    His response was, “You don’t have any anxiety! Look at these results!” as he waved some charts at me.
    I said, holding my hands about three feet apart, “You are talking about ANXIETY and I’m (holding two fingers an inch apart) talking about a small, one subject anxiety.
    My experience of the anxiety trumped his opinion of it.
    Relax in the knowledge of, “It is what it is.” and if their opinion differs from your experience, they are the one with the problem since they are not giving you adequate consideration.

    in reply to: inattentive adhd. what meds are best #90543

    I have been through a bevy of meds.
    Many of them were quite un-helpful.
    My psychiatrist was less than convinced that there was an “Inattentive” variant of ADD.
    His “go to” fixit med was Ritalin, Adderall or some other version of the usual stimulants.
    Unfortunately those stimulants over-stimulated another part of my brain and that turned me “ash hole-ish” and I was quite impatient with people.
    So much so that people were asking my wife if I was OK?
    Due to his inability to acknowledge my “Inattentive ADD” I changed doctors and was prescribed Nuvigil.
    It worked well but gave me a tendency to talk too much (could be seen as “Mania” but since I can suppress it, it poses no problem).
    Provigil worked better and is what I’m taking today (less tendency to be over chatty).

    in reply to: Having bad experience on medication #89868

    My friend’s son had a tough time getting his meds adjusted and just gave up. Unfortunately he has no relief from his condition.
    I was prescribed Adderall for my “Inattentive ADD” and it worked for a while.
    After about six months it overstimulated some section of my brain and I was a bit of an ass in my lack of patience, etc.
    We tried a few other meds and eventually settled on Nuvigil. It has been working well for me.
    My point is, keep at it. You know how you feel and those around you be will tell you how you are acting. Keep your doctor informed on both fronts and keep trying, it is worth it! When things are right life is easier.
    You are worth it!

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