Possibly Dyslexic as well as ADHD

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    • #56087

      So, I think there is a possibility I might have dyslexia. I looked up the symptoms and on dyslexia.com, there is a list of 37 common symptoms and it said if you have at least 10 of these symptoms then you might need to be tested. These are the symptoms I think I have (21 of the 37). Can anyone confirm these symptoms are linked to dyslexia?

      Symptom list:
      1) Feels dumb; has poor self-esteem; hides or covers up weaknesses with ingenious compensatory strategies; easily frustrated and emotional about school reading or testing.
      2) Seems to “Zone out” or daydream often; gets lost easily or loses track of time.
      3) Learns best through hands-on experience, demonstrations, experimentation, observation, and visual aids.
      4) Spells phonetically and inconsistently.
      5) Has extended hearing; hears things not said or apparent to others; easily distracted by sounds.
      6) Difficulty putting thoughts into words; speaks in halting phrases; leaves sentences incomplete; stutters under stress; mispronounces long words, or transposes phrases, words, and syllables when speaking.
      7) Clumsy, uncoordinated, poor at ball or team sports; difficulties with fine and/or gross motor skills and tasks; prone to motion-sickness.
      8) Has difficulty telling time, managing time, learning sequenced information or tasks, or being on time.
      9) Computing math shows dependence on finger counting and other tricks; knows answers, but can’t do it on paper.
      10) Can count, but has difficulty counting objects and dealing with money.
      11) Can do arithmetic, but fails word problems; cannot grasp algebra or higher math.
      12) Thinks primarily with images and feeling, not sounds or words (little internal dialogue).
      13) (mine was early talking) Had unusually early or late developmental stages (talking, crawling, walking, tying shoes).
      14) (Possibly) Prone to ear infections; sensitive to foods, additives, and chemical products.
      15) Can be an extra deep or light sleeper
      16) Unusually high or low tolerance for pain.
      17) Poor memory for sequences, facts and information that has not been experienced.
      18) Mistakes and symptoms increase dramatically with confusion, time pressure, emotional stress, or poor health.
      19) Extremely disorderly or compulsively orderly.
      20) Trouble with writing or copying
      21) Difficulty with telling left from right, & north, south, east, west

    • #56116

      I don’t know that I would deduce somebody is dyslexic based on this laundry list. I myself have a large number of the symptoms described, some due to ADHD (like the daydreaming, time issues, and math issues, which are a sign of poor working memory) and some due to SPD (sensory processing disorder, like the motion sickness and difficulty telling left from right, together with the more obvious sensitivities), yet I was an early, fast and compulsive reader and have no trouble spelling even in a second language. I have a friend who is dyslexic, however, and I asked him what it is like (was concerned for my kid, who is writing mirror image letters and left to right well past the time she should, but that seems to more of a left-handed issue in the end). The worst of it, for him, is that letters wiggle and change position while he is trying to read them. That means that even straight copying of a text will produce very misspelled results (for example, his checks would get returned constantly because he would write the recipient wrong, even with a bill in front of him — he thinks computer bill-paying is the best thing ever).

      That being said, when you can list 21 things you are unhappy about, it’s always a good idea to see a specialist. Number 6 on your list is probably the most worrisome in terms of a language-processing disorder. If a kid was involved, I would say the best bet for a big life improvement would be occupational therapy for SPD (see the book “The Out-of-Sync Child” https://www.amazon.com/Out-Sync-Child-ebook/dp/B00261OOVM/ref=sr_1_3?s=digital-text&ie=UTF8&qid=1502023683&sr=1-3). Therapy seems to help children a lot — sadly for adults nothing much helps.

    • #56165

      I cannot diagnose, but I can say most of these 21 symptoms are not specifically related to signs of dyslexia. For example, number 4 says “spells phonetically” but spelling phonetically (also sometimes called “invented spelling”) is very difficult for someone who is challenged with dyslexia. Number six says,”Difficulty putting thoughts into words” which points towards a speech processing issue or auditory processing issues which are often accompanied by dyslexia but not specifically a sign of dyslexia. Number 20 trouble with writing is dysgraphia, although those with dyslexia tend to have a difficult time with spelling words correctly even when copying. I would look more for a very strong indicator of slow, laborious reading. Perhaps listening comprehension is much stronger indicating that there is a reading problem, not a comprehension problem. If you google dyslexia signs, I know you’ll find some great websites which will list specific possible signs. Hope that helps a little! 🙂

      • #58610

        Invented spelling is only hard for a person with dyslexia if the person was taught reading poorly (extremely common), if the person is trying to reproduce a word he has read but doesn’t hear in everyday language (and so likely “read” wrong), or if he’s trying to spell a word he hasn’t correctly connected to a spoken word (“read” wrong again).

    • #56313

      A few of the problems with being both dyslexic and ADD/ADHA is that both issues or symptoms become intensified by other. They are also very similar to each other so that just adds to either the confusion or the challenges that a person faces. Although most of us are highly intelligent, people who work with us wonder how smart we are because we cannot seem to be or stay organized (i.e. the boss). And if we have to communicate via email, we’re not the best person to put together an email. Put us under pressure and we will become a bigger mess. YET, we have the answers most time and can put our hands on the project presentation, we can explain a better way to do something and we have new ideas that most have not thought of, and if you need a person to think outside the box, we’re that person. We’ve had to deal with life outside the box more often then not…mostly because we just approach things differently.

      But the biggest challenge is keeping a job or finding organizational steps to help us keep a job. We need help with tasks to be the successful persons we can be!

      I reviewed all your points, I answered yes to all but 4 items. My dyslexia does not stop me from reading now as an adult I am fine with that, learning as a kid was a nightmare, but it’s all the other issues that come with dyslexia and ADD that my life crazy. I just want some proven organizational steps to help and I’ll live with my messed up emails.

    • #58609

      That quiz seems obtuse to me and more than a bit absurd.

      That said, dysgraphia/dyslexia often come along with ADHD. HOWEVER, 99% of properly taught dyslexic students can be fluent, accurate (at the sentence level), and easy readers, if they are taught decently. Most schools teach reading terribly, though! Unfortunately, dysgraphia is much, much more difficult to address. And dyslexia also is harder to deal with in math and science (where accurately reading arbitrary numbers is important) than in flowing text!

      ADHD isn’t one condition. It could be labeled as a manifestation of a neurological abnormality. That manifestation could be caused by any of a number of underlying abnormalities. The autism-SPD-NVLD-PPD-NOS-clumsy child-sleep disorder-dyslexia-dyspraxia-dysgraphia-ADHD complex is one of those. No one probably has all those conditions at once, but many people have more than one. My sleep doctor insists that ADHD is usually a misdiagnosed sleep disorder. My psychiatrist insists that sleep disorders are often misdiagnosed ADHD. They’re both right. Heck, bipolar disorder is really a sleep disorder! Or there is a sleep disorder that causes bipolar disorder, if you want to look at it that way–a failure of the SCN. (I’m deadly serious about this–lithium works on the SCN, and that is the only way it works!)

      There are lots of people who have ADHD without anything in that cluster. They have a different underlying neurological defect manifesting as ADHD.

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