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    • #122797
      adhdfuturenurse
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      I have been diagnosed with ADHD over 10 years ago. I am called the poster child, well now adult for ADHD. Without my meds, it can take me up to 3 hours to get ready for bed. My actions reveal my adhd struggle constantly, I’ll go to take an adderall, forget to take it, not remember if I took it or not, and the cycle goes on.
      I am a nursing student despite my challenges I face with my brain daily. If it weren’t for my adderall I wouldn’t be able to function properly. I’ve been on both vyvanse and adderall. Adderall works best for me. Until this month. This month I was given these pink pills that I swear are placebo. I called to report this to my pharmacist and psychiatrist and we are in the works of getting TEVA back. Until then I have to keep taking this unfortunate horrid medication. I am having to take double the quantity to get half of the affects. I have 4 exams this week and I can’t pay attention for the life of me. I am getting HORRID migraines. TEVA is low on my dosage so I’m trying to figure out what the hell to do. I saw some people say there is a brand name IR but what is it called and who makes it? My pharmacist doesn’t know of one but I’m eager to find a resolution to this problem. My house is a mess. My life is a mess. I can’t stop my mind. When I take just 1 my thoughts are all over the place more than normal. If I take 2, I get half of the effect of 1 pill. I’m monitoring my HR and BP and I am within normal limits of both. But I have reported this to the FDA.

    • #122810
      Anne.H
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      I also get 30mg pinkish tablets from Walgreens. Over the last 2 months it’s felt like Adderall has just completely stopped working for me and even if I were to take triple the daily prescribed amount, there would still be minimal to no effect. No increase in focus or its concomitant positive feelings of interest and engagement. Adderall has never made me feel super awake, but usually it takes away the feeling of constant fatigue and gives me a normal energy level (basically what I assume most biologically & neurologically well-adjusted people experience every day). Hope it’s the manufacturer making faulty pills! Because returning to my baseline state pre-amphetamine medication is not a functional or even live-able option. And prescribers seem so much more concerned with protecting all the non-ADHD alleged stimulant addicts from themselves, that those of us with this physical disability are
      are left to endure with inadequate treatment. If things were different and caring for actual patients was the clinical focus, I wouldn’t have to be terrified that adderall has stopped working. I can’t even get enough pills per month to cover a full 12-16 hour day since prescribers are more concerned about going against a nearly baseless FDA guideline than leaving patients unmedicated half of each day. Let alone get an effective Adderall alternative if needed, like Desoxyn (read it’s 100% substantiated as the most effective for treating ADD) or ideally a combination stimulant therapy to better address my entire symptom range. So fingers crossed it’s just temporarily bad adderall manufacturing !

      • #125808
        dreamer10
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        I am glad I found this post. My pharmacy gave me these pink generic pills this last time and I feel like they are not working. Usually they are orange. How can this company put out pills that have no potency? I am struggling to get through each day with these crappy pills!

      • #166530
        Aaron Lewis
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        You’re highly unlikely to find a doctor who will prescribe Desoxyn (methamphetamine). There’s a reason for it. Since methamphetamine is one of the most commonly abused drugs, doctors are very leery about prescribing methamphetamine, even in small doses.

        • This reply was modified 6 months, 4 weeks ago by Aaron Lewis.
      • #183174
        Martheophilus1
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        Strange, they work for me although I got a gross headache today, the 3rd day of taking them. I wonder though if that’s from combining with CBD which is said to inhibit the breakdown of certain enzymes in the liver, similarly to grape juice but more studies are needed on that matter.
        I wonder if you got a bad batch. Don’t mean to insult your intelligence but are you drinking any fruit juices or having fruit near the time of ingestion? Just asking cause some doctors don’t talk about possible interactions like that with their patients.

      • #183819
        myachilleesheel1
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        Hey Martheophilus1,

        Did you get the 30 mg Epic Pharma tablets or the 10mg or 20mg tablets?

        The reason I ask is because the first round of Epic Pharma Adderall was released in 2018 into 2019 and the dosages released were ONLY the 5, 15, and 30 mg tablets only.

        Then in 2019 the 10 and 20 mg tablets were released and shipped out in 2019 into 2020. This second round was supposed to be better and more on point. I have no idea if the second round of 5, 15, and 30 mg tablets released along with the 10 and 20 mg batches/lots.

        I do know when I received the 30 mg tablets in August 2019 (which were dispensed by a a Kroger Pharmacy/Fry’s Grocery store Pharmacy in Phoenix Arizona), that those tablets were ineffective with no therapeutic value and no cognitive improvement.

        Hopefully Epic Pharma has learned how to correctly separate the enantiomers in order to make an effective generic adderall. After all, Epic purchased this formula from Corepharma which in my opinion had been an excellent generic.

        Time will tell I guess…

    • #125842
      zenzi
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      Wow, I thought I was the only one. I stopped taking generic Adderall over six months ago, because it stopped working, even when my dosage was increased. Unfortunately, my city is overrun by Walgreen’s (they bought out the major local pharmacy chain), so I feel I have no choice but to hope I can get a better formula someplace else, a different prescription, or that my insurance covers the brand name stuff.

      • #183173
        Martheophilus1
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        What you say about methamphetamine is actually misinformation and you should know that there is research disproving your claims about the medicinal use of methamphetamine. Dr. Carl Hart, a professor of neuroscience at Columbia university studied this drug and found that it truly uncommon for it to be abused, despite what the newspapers have said, he found that 70% of users do not get addicted. Now, this isn’t to give acceptance to the reckless act of using illegal methamphetamine, but you start asking, why is this unpatentable medicine from 1898 being slandered and misunderstood so much?
        Dr. Carl Hart says certain agencies get their budgets increased when they exaggerate the dangers of this medicine, which research shows is safe in moderation. Just read patient reviews of people who use Desoxyn, all very good and they say it works better than any other med, just as the other person on here said, and some use it for decades with no issues. According to recent clinical studies from this professor at Columbia university it is the same thing as the main drug in Adderal, Dextroamphetamine, it is not more addictive then other amphetamines because it crosses the lipid barrier in the brain, as formerly claimed.
        Please read this article knowing that we humans know nothing until we receive true understanding.

        https://www.forbes.com/sites/jacobsullum/2014/02/20/hyperbole-hurts-the-surprising-truth-about-methamphetamine/#3d681b6b29f1

        Dr Hart also gives a lecture about methamphetamine myths to government official in Thailand here:

        I used to think this drug was Nazi poison that kamakazi pilots and Nazi soldiers took before being committing their atrocities in war and I heard it caused permanent brain damage, but then I heard Dr. Hart’s research and found out that I was deceived.

        After reading patient reviews of Desoxyn for ADD, I want to try it because allost all of them say it is more calming and you know what, anxiety and fear are not side effects of pharmaceutical methamphetamine.

        Illegal methamphetamine is a trap from God’s enemy, a very bad idea and this foolish practice makes it hard for honest people to get this medicine for legitimate reasons. So I pray this comes to an end by the mercy of our God if it is His will.
        I asked my doctor for Desoxyn and he didn’t know what it was but said, “Meth, that’s that stuff that makes people wonder around delusional and do crazy things.”
        I was perplexed by his logic, with all the science being considered, that’s like saying, “alcohol makes people crash cars.”
        No, being a fool and getting drunk before you drive makes people crash cars just like taking high doses of ANY amphetamine night after night without sleep leads to delusions, panic attacks, anxiety and psychosis, just as our Adderall warning label warns.

        It is very important to both question and verify the information we read and hear the best we can before we go repeating it to the rest of society. You know?

    • #126055
      cullman
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      IF ONLY we could trade places!!! i have been hunting desperately for about a year to get the old Core Pharma/ now Epic Pharma Bright Pink Beauties.
      All i can get at walgreens (and most other places around here) is Teva.. I have exactly the same issue as you do to the CorePharmas.. i get TERRIBLE headaches, and no activation and no focus…

      I miss the CorePharma’s so much. i’ve been in contact constantly with Epic and they assure me it is ‘out there’. But i have tried all the pharmacies in my town and nothing…

      🙁
      i miss my brain function…

      • #139738
        suziq977
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        I too miss corepharma, it was the only generic i had no sideeffects and worked on my adhd symptems. It was in my experience the perfect match for me. I was able to create my business and became successful all up and until they closed their doors on manufacturing my cure. Its been over a year now and i have since lost 1/2 of my accounts due to these other generics sideeffects and inability to work on any symptom if not making them worse.

        I am still angry and there is far more to this story but i cant sit still long enough to finish a single thought.

        Did i hear u right corepharma is now epic pharma manufacturing those bright pink beauties?

    • #126130
      nunu
      Participant

      For the entire last month I had to suffer because of this useless Sandoz pink special. there definitely should be a process that allows us to replace Adderall that is ineffective for us.

    • #165827
      t foster
      Participant

      I have been taking Adderall for over 30 years. I’ve seen many in it’s generic form over the years. The oval orange 30mg have been the best comparative. This month I got a pink pill from Epic (which may not be Epic anymore) This pink pill with a cross reminds me of something called ‘Pink Hearts’ from Mexico we ordered off the back of a magazine years ago (Caffeine+ color). They had more affect than this product. I’m sorry, is my money not green enough? There are many of us older ADHD that CAN tell we are being exposed to this crap. If you want to save money, go after the Diabetics or the Cancer (oh wait, you all ready do that) Go after COPD, because it all the same when it comes to being able to function. Maybe worse when your older. I am really surprise at companies that should be more diligent in respect to their product and the people they are responsible for. You have made us YOUR CHILDREN and as such your responsibility becomes LEGAL. I hope I don’t get the pink pill next month because there are legal remedies. I will be passing on pills to a laboratory for testing. I suggest anyone else having trouble to consider the same step. If the results are as I suspect, Epic will pay the bill Thanks MOM and DAD for you time in this matter

    • #171181
      jrod
      Participant

      Unfortunately this is where it’s heading with almost every generic medication. I used to take Barr generic adderall and they were great.
      As pharmaceutical companies look to save money, they outsource these generic drugs to other countries primarily India where they are far from the reach of the FDA and have little to no quality control. I make sure to stay away from certain brands of Adderall primarily because they have little effect. Another problem is that the specific ratio of dextroamphetamine to amphetamine for the brand is not available to the generic companies. They only have to be within 20% +/- of the formula. So not only do they not have the exact ratio, they only have to be close to 24mg for a 30mg pill, 16mg on a 20mg pill, etc.
      This is why we pay what we pay for generic meds!
      Nothing will change. I’ve been on Adderall for 20 years.
      I recently started taking citicoline and pregnenolone only. Not only have I felt better but I’ve stopped my Adderall!
      I’ll hang on to it just in case but I’ve been doing just fine without.

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