July 21, 2017 at 6:02 pm #54574AlexParticipant
I’m a thirty year old male who was diagnosed about a month ago with ADHD. I was placed on Adderall which did seem to help for a period. Although, there are some really terrible inconsistencies with the medication. I take two 5mg doses, one in the morning and one in the afternoon. There are days where I feel the medication is entirely doing its job, and others where it almost seems I didn’t take any meds. On my off days I’ll fall into terrible depression, moody, irritable and an extreme lack of energy. I’m starting to wonder if it is associated with my diet? I have always kept a very healthy and balanced diet. I was unaware certain foods/supplements could greatly affect the medication. I’ve gone almost insane reading various conflicting articles in terms of timing and what to eat/not to eat. It’s all very overwhelming. Here is my current diet for the day, hoping someone can chime in and give some advice.
*9am (5mg dose)
*930am Breakfast (Eggs/avocado, chicken sausage) or and (B-Complex Vitamins/5-HTP/Fish Oil 1200mg)
*12pm Lunch (Typically fish + veges)
*2pm Fruit Smoothie (Banana, Flax Seeds, Chia Seeds, Ginger, Coco Oil, Pineapple, Tumeric)
*430pm Dinner (5mg dose)
My main concerns are ingredients that are high in Vitamin C that might be affecting the medication to work properly? I’ve read citric/acidic fruit juices can affect the meds and my B-Complex has 300% Vit. C so I’m having a hard time figuring out how to structure my diet to work best with medication. Overwhelming is an understatement!! Looking forward to any advice/tips.
July 23, 2017 at 1:02 pm #54620Penny WilliamsKeymaster
Yes, you should avoid Vitamin C and citric acid within an hour of taking stimulant medication. Your best bet would be to work with your doctor or an integrative meds doctor to try to devise a plan of supplements and medication that is safe and effective.
One idea would be to get a B-complex without Vitamin C in it, then take a simple Vitamin C at bedtime (as long as your doctor agrees, of course).
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September 4, 2017 at 9:22 am #59660Poppy123Participant
You could look into Dr Eric Berg who recommends the low carb ketogenic diet which is going longer without any kind of food or milky drinks and only having 2-3 meals a day and only watery, non sugary drinks inbetween to stable blood sugar levels. I am trying to stay on this diet and i have erythritol and stevia sweeteners from amazon instead of sugar and high carb foods.
September 5, 2017 at 11:40 pm #59738Miss.EntropyParticipant
I have been on adderall for a year now. For the first 3 months or so I took 2 pills a day, morning and afternoon. But that mid- day crash is the worst!! It’s liked you just ate 5 doughnuts and a slirpy. My psych. put me on the extended release (xr) and they worked amazingly. 5 mg is a very small amount. People develop a tolerance to it so you could probably up it and do the XR. Just ask your psych.
September 6, 2017 at 3:46 pm #59878gentlygenliParticipant
Stay away from fad diets like the keto diet. Long term ketogenesis leads to very refractory tissue-level insulin resistance as your muscle try to save glucose for the brain as well was brain damage from unselective synaptic pruning. The second is generally reversible. The first might not be.
Early ketogenesis causes first exhaustion then euphoria. You trick your body into thinking that it is food-insecure, so the purpose of the euphoria is to give you energy to get food. Short term ketosis is beneficial for many reasons–improved insulin response, and, when combined with short term fasting or near fasting, protein cycling and autophagy that is likely to decrease atherosclerotic heat disease and cancer. Long term ketosis is quite harmful in many ways, though, including cognitive function. Many people experience the short term euphoria and think they’ve stumbled onto the cure for everything. Then they start feeling like crap and their brains go foggy, and they “fall off the wagon” (save themselves from a horrible long term diet) and then retroactively blame their crappy feeling on stopping the diet. They go back on, briefly get euphoria, rinse and repeat. The few people with enough stamina to ignore their body’s desperate signals that something is seriously wrong can damage themselves seriously. If you’ve noticed that people maintaining extreme diets long term act rather irrational and unbalanced, it’s because they are.
5mg is a very, very small dose for an adult. That’s going to be part of the problem. I’m in the same boat with that dose, regardless of diet.
Avoid acidic drinks within 30 min of meds. Taking meds on a full stomach delays their reaction–this is particularly an issue with XR tablets because it crowds the first peak against the second. Different eating schedules will delay the release different amounts. I find it far easier to eat after and avoid the issue entirely.
Taking dopamine precursors and CoQ10 might help provide neuro protection against any ill effects of the drug.
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September 27, 2017 at 1:47 am #62654Akshat MalyaParticipant
I was not aware about the intake of vitamin C and citric acid consumption.There is so much to know about ADHD in detail.A good quality of food can diagnose in a fast manner with more effective approach.But I am not sure that the ketogenic diet will gonna work or not!However one should focus on basic food with no oil quantity made in air fryer must be eaten for better results.
Keep sharing helpful information with all!
March 1, 2018 at 11:23 am #77513shouks29Participant
Hi! I’m a 37 yr old female and I was diagnosed as a child and have been receiving treatments mainly behavioral therapy all of my life. I also take Adderall.. I can tell you that Vitamin C before or after med times is a no no- so hit that at night- also where as your diet is very lean and ‘healthy’ for a person without ADHD I would say it’s a bit lacking for someone that does have ADHD. Since ADHD is a full on brain thing your focus should be on fueling that part of your body. Focus your attention on foods that boost brain power and activity. Lean proteins are a must with the occasional lean red meat. I have found that when I eat for my brain that my symptoms are much more in control and I feel better all the way around. I agree that the dose you are on is very low for an adult and you should consider talking about maybe an increase. I would also suggest regular appointments with an ADHD therapist to help you adjust and learn behavior therapies to help you manage your symptoms. I see one every week. For everyone else out there….. pre- packaged foods are the enemy for us along with food dyes…. pay close attention to food dyes and preservatives as those normally have a very negative reaction to those of us with ADHD.
March 1, 2018 at 11:46 am #77515brandikballParticipant
When you described your off-days, that was me on Adderall period. I had severe mood swings, depression, and irritability without any increased focus. I have since switched to 10mg of Ritalin that I take as-needed, usually just once a day when I need the extra focus. Not all of us respond well to stimulants (some see no benefit at all), and some respond better to some stimulants than others. I am also on Strattera, which is a mood stabilizer, to help with the mood swings and general irritability associated with ADHD. I have found this to be the best mix for me, low-dose of stimulant as-needed with a mood stabilizer every day. I would talk to your doctor about your symptoms, and maybe look into a different stimulant or adding a mood stabilizer to the mix. ADHD is a tricky thing to treat, and may take a few tries to find the right combination for you.
Good luck! I hope you find something that works well for you!
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