504 plan? – gifted with adhd and mild dyslexia?

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      My son has had extensive testing and has a high IQ, but also dyslexia. His Dyslexia wasn’t obvious because IQ in that area was making him grade level. Grade level is way below his potential according to tests. He started medicine and it has brought most of the As and Bs up to straight As in Fourth grade. He doesn’t have a 504 plan, but teachers are marking off points for grammar, spelling and capitalization. These mistakes are related to his dyslexia. My educational specialist that tested him said he should not be graded on these mistakes. Should I ask for a 504 even though he is getting good grades? I think the Bs where content is correct in Social Studies should be an A if the teacher doesn’t take off for grammar/spelling etc. Will a 504 plan effect him getting into college later in high school?

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      Dr. Eric

      A 504 plan will not prevent him from getting into college.

      The 504 criteria is a little more nuanced and tricky.

      Especially when you discuss the grading…
      I generally write my accomodation, “Will not mark off for XYZ unless that is what is being explicitly assessed.”

      It is reasonable to say that a history grade should not be affected by grammar, but we don’t want to go through twelfth grade without ever being held accountable for learning grammar. That WILL impact getting into college.

      Most of my teachers have an easy end-around for something like an essay, one grade for content and one grade for writing.

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      First things first. Your son has a dyslexia diagnosis – he should be on an IEP – not a 504. I 504 will not give the support and accommodations required for a dyslexia diagnosis. Medication will have no effect on dyslexia – it’s a learning style.

      A high IQ is typical for a dyslexia diagnosis. Fact: Dyslexia and intelligence are NOT connected. As dyslexia is not a matter of low cognitive ability – but rather affects the way information is processed, stored and retrieved, with problems of memory, speed of processing, time perception, organization, and sequencing. Einstein was dyslexic. It’s a gift – I see it as one anyway.

      An IEP should be set up for him to include a Multisensory learning program. This is the best solution even if his grades are passing now, as the material difficulty and requirements increase the more difficult school will become – No matter how mild dyslexia is – trust me – this is what happened to me.

      As a dyslexic mom of a dyslexic son with ADHD – I got him enrolled into a multi-sensory program. I got much pushback from the school because in my experience some of them do not fully understand the long-term impact. They have a short sited view – he is only a little behind, he is progressing, he just needs to focus more, he is lazy …blah blah blah…until the material gets harder.

      I ask my Son how to spell things now – I can’t tell you how much Orton-Gillinghams multi-sensory program helped. I wish I had it growing up.

      By the way, there are great tools out there – I type this out with Grammarly installed as a Chrome extension – it’s been a life saver! An IEP will allow him to have such accommodations.

      I hope this helps, Good luck!

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        Dr. Eric

        “Your son has a dyslexia diagnosis – he should be on an IEP – not a 504. I 504 will not give the support and accommodations required for a dyslexia diagnosis.”

        I don’t know if I necessarily agree with this.

        The most common mistake that I see on these forums is that the disability does not drive eligibility, the level of impairment does.

        For special education, you must have a qualifying disability AND cannot get a measurable educational benefit without special education (In IDEA, this is embedded in CFR 300.8. Here in CA, Education Code 56026). A meaningful and measurable educational benefit is called “FAPE” (Free and Appropriate Public Education). This is a high threshold to qualify.

        Assuming there is no grade inflation (which happens, I rarely rely on letter grades), if grades are matching objective measures of mastery, he should not qualify. There is a lot of real estate between not meeting one’s potential and requiring specialized instruction or services in order to achieve a meaningful and measurable educational benefit – which is the threshold to qualify for an IEP.

        The 504 only requires a disability and an impact or impairment.
        Info straight from the feds…https://www2.ed.gov/about/offices/list/ocr/504faq.html

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      An IEP will also help with testing. I’m not sure what the rules are in your state, but here students can only have accommodations for state testing if they have an IEP or 504. It also makes middle school easier. A lot of kids with high IQs and LDs can do well in elementary school when instruction is at a slow enough pace for them to keep up. Things move faster in Middle School, and the reading requirements get heavier. Having an IEP in elementary school will make it easier to start the process in middle school. Anything to be proactive and get the ball rolling can’t hurt.

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