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“@elly87 said He was placed on Vyvanse 10 mg as his school threatened to expel him due to his wandering/fighting behavior if he wasn’t medicated.”

When I read these statements I want to scream. On every forum I’ve read I see many members say, “I’m not a doctor” then give the experience not their medical diagnosis.

Many schools are way too quick to decide a child has ADD, OCD, ODD or some other problem then “recommend” a particular doctor. They recommend that doctor because they know he/she prescribes meds after only a very few visits.

For a school administrator to threaten parents with expulsion if they don’t medicate their child is practicing medicine without a license. I think more parents should report such behavior to the proper authorities.

Having said that, for the school to point out that a child’s behavior could result in expulsion, then, to suggest that the parents find a therapist or doctor to make sure the child isn’t having an issue would be fine. But, to put it as “put him on medicine or we’ll toss him on the street” is seriously one of the reasons many parents don’t trust school administrators.

My worry when it came to my son was that stimulants in the morning (and perhaps afternoon) combined with benadryl at bedtime seemed to be about the same thing as giving him three shots of espresso before school, two shots of espresso at lunch and a shot of whiskey at bedtime.

At first, that is exactly what I felt was happening. It took many adjustments of meds to get it right. Changing meds, changing dosages, trying time released versus instant release, moving the benadryl to “as needed” instead of every night, giving him autonomy over weekends (right now he’s on seven days a week – but weekends are his choice). My son is much older and obviously a 6 year old isn’t going to get the same choices.

But, if he’s worse on meds than off – which is how I interpreted your post, obviously a trip back to the doctor is required.

It’s so easy to forget something you wanted to ask the doctor. Write your questions down or print them from your computer. I’ve found paper is essential for this to work. Just having them in my phone isn’t as effective. I even use this for my own doctor’s appointments.

Put the paper on the exam table so the doctor sees it as soon as he/she walks in. I use a lined notebook paper and a sharpie to write my questions or concerns.

Doctors appreciate it, it makes it quick to get to your core concerns. I try to keep it to my most basic questions and not a question about everything Dr. Google has told me.

You said you didn’t make a complete list above of his over stimulated behavior. I’d recommend two sheets of paper. On the “main sheet” write that he’s over stimulated. On the other piece write just a few examples.

I’m not a doctor, but if his behavior is worse now than before, something is seriously wrong. Either he didn’t have ADD, ODD or anything wrong and the school has pressured you into putting him on needless meds or he’s on the wrong meds.

One last thing. In my experience, second opinion doctor’s are fearless. When they know their just providing a 2nd opinion they really open up. I’ve also had the same doctors do a 180 degree turn when I come back and want them to act on what they told me the first time. These were my doctor’s not my son’s.

I’d wish you luck – but you don’t need luck, you just need a parents desire to do what’s best for their child.