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27 Dec 2010 @ 11:25 AM
Shawn's Mom Join Date: Mon 27th Dec 2010
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IEP--Just say YOU DO NOT AGREE and use your OWN psychologist!!

My son was diagnosed in First Grade as having ADHD by a respected child psychologist that my family doctor recommended--not a school-provided psychologist. I believe this ensured a fair diagnosis which afforded him an IEP in First Grade. For many years, my husband and I would go to the IEP Meetings that were planned and run by school officials. They led us to believe that they were doing what was best for my son. We believed that for too many years--until my son reached Junior High. Through all the years, my son always had difficulty in school. My husband and I were in weekly contact with his school (principal, teachers, etc.) to help manage his behavior and assignments. It was a long, difficult road just getting him to Junior High School. Our saving grace was the constant support we had (via notes) from the family doctor and psychologist that we provided to the school which helped to keep my son out of trouble. When we moved to another state, we found out they had NO ONE in their school with an ADHD diagnosis that required an IEP (small town, rural school--did not believe in ADHD--only spankings). We were told by others in the community that it was impossible to get the school system (paid school psychologist) to diagnose children with this disorder. They would diagnose with other disorders that did not qualify for an IEP. Shortly upon arriving in this school system, they wanted to conduct the re-evaluation that is periodically required. Upon conducting research on the types of tests they wanted to perform, I finally realized some of the additional testing the school wanted to perform could potentially remove my son from an IEP status. (I believe this was their intent.) It took us until my son was in Junior High School until we realized that the "system" was only doing the minimum to help our son. They had no interst in doing what was best for him--only what was required by law--and they didn't even want to do that. They wanted him to be diagnosed differently so that they could suspend and/or expel him and not have to conduct IEP Meetings. They did not like my son and they sure did not like his parents who interfered weekly! Since I had moved, I stayed in contact with my son's original psychologist and he recommended we take my son to a large city psychologist at a major hospital for the re-evaluation vs. using the "free" school psychologst. This strategy paid off. My son's diagnosis and status in IEP did not change--even though the school officials were furious!! There was nothing they could do to discontinue the services we requested.

My husband I went to the next IEP Meeting. There were many things that needed to be improved upon in the IEP in order for my son to be successfull, but they did not agree with us. They tried to pressure us into signing the document. At this point, my husband and I both signed an IEP (which is always required at the end of each IEP Meeting) and by our signatures we wrote "I do not agree with this IEP." You should have seen the shocked and upset response we received from all in the room! Once we did this, things turned around. We told them what we wanted vs. agreeing to what they proposed. From then on out, we were in control. It was very refreshing to realize this. I wanted to share this as I don't think many parents know that can sign the IEP but state that they do not agree. The next IEP that was written was written the way we wanted to see it--with a lot more hours and attention being devoted to my son than they had originally offered. Hope this helps. We were sad it took us until Junior High to realize this! We thought they were in control; we had no idea we could be in control!

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26 Apr 2011 @ 10:21 PM Reply # 1
Florida Education Advocate Join Date: Tue 26th Apr 2011
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signing IEP

1. You are not required to sign the IEP. They will ask you to do so; however, there is no legal requirement that you do so either. Equally, they can implement an IEP without your signature. All they are required to do is to allow you to participate as a equal member of the group and they must offer you meaningful participation.

2. That said, being educators, and thinking they know the rules, they often think they must get your signature.

3. I always have my clients write the following on the IEPs: "Parents and advocate sign for attendance purposes only." I do this even when I think we are in agreement. That way when I get back to my office and notice they changed a sentence structure they can't say we agreed. Trust me, they bring those signed meeting notes to due process hearings and infer you agreed with them.

4. Your "I don't agree" hand written note is probably even more effective.

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27 Mar 2012 @ 1:10 PM Reply # 2
alliecg27 Join Date: Tue 27th Mar 2012
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"Free" Psychologists

Being one of the "free" school psychologists that you speak of, I can tell you for sure that I have never acted outside the interest of a student, even when it upset my school colleagues, and I don't know any other school psychologist who has.

We don't get into this field because we get our kicks from upsetting parents and trying to trick them. C'mon, you can't consider for a moment that just maybe they were genuinely trying to develo something that works for your child? Yes, schools are required to provide only the minimum necessary to help the student access the curriculum, but they very often go as far as they can with the resources they have, even when the parent is difficult. If you want to be angry with someone, consider the economy for a target. We also have enormous case loads to deal with, and I think that very often parents don't consider that.

I'm not suggesting that you shouldn't advocate for your child; You absolutely should. I myself needed a lot of this same help as a child, but thankfully my parents worked with the school respectfully and purposefully and what I didn't have I learned to develop coping skills for. All I'm saying is to please consider for a moment that educators are not innately bad and we don't sit up at night thinking of ways to torture you. We're doing the best we can with what we have.

And, the "free" school psychologists you speak of are trained specifically to work with students' needs in schools. You're seeking advice from a more clinical perspective. We design interventions that work in the school environment because it's our specialty and we chose to work in schools, not because we're any less capable or intelligent than a clinical psychologist.

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