Hi Pat...I know I'm not in your position, I have a 13 yr. old granddaughter with ADD, but sympathize with your feelings of fear and dread. Please don't give up! Keep calling for help, research on the internet, keep screaming till someone hears you and finds help for your grandson! Just wanted to say I'll keep you and your grandson in my prayers that a break through moment will happen!

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I don't have an answer for you Pat, but I can totally empathize. My son has had ADHD ever since I've known him if that's possible. I always knew something wasn't right and he was "officially" diagnosed when he was 6. He has been on various stimulant medication with good result up until he went into high school this year and refused to take them. Since then he has been on a downward spiral: grades dropping, hanging out with kids after school and smoking pot, started smoking cigarettes and has been shoplifting for who knows how long, lying through his teeth about everything and not smart enough to cover his tracks. He's been caught shoplifting in stores twice but the police were not called either time, we were. He, too, is out of control and just does NOT understand how his complete lack of self control due to the ADHD impulsiveness affects him. Fortunately for us he is still under age so he's going for a psychiatric evaluation and will be put back on some kind of meds for his ADHD. It's very possible that he's bipolar as well and there is a very strong family history. I hope and pray that he can be made to see how his ADHD affects his behavior. But, the sad fact is he doesn' t think there's anything wrong and he doesn't want any help for it. Your grandson is in the same situation. Once they are of adult age, unfortunately there is nothing we can do to help them. It is such a sad, sad thing to watch and I fear I will be in your shoes someday. There is only so much we can do for them. Beyond that they need to want to help themselves.

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Thank you both for responding. At this point we do need prayers and support. The idea that there is NOTHING we can do is almost impossible to live with. My grandson also doesn't think he has a problem. He says he is having 'fun' and no one will stop him. I spoke to him yesterday as I found a doctor who works with 'resistant' cases. I also have forms for financial help for these services but he thinks we are overreacting. He lives in filth with some guy, has big parties every weekend with many of the attendees are as young as 13. We had the mother of a 15 year old calling us crying because her son had been missing for 2 days. Sure enough he was with my grandson. We have tried to tell him he is contributing to minors and he said "they will find somewhere to party anyway so who am I to deny them?" He also is involved with people who steal very high end clothing and he sells them. We tell him he is just as guilty of theft and he claims" he doesn't do the stealing". He rationalizes everything , lies without any conscience and seems to be void of feelings. Look up the term antisocial personality disorder and it fits him like a glove. The fact that this disorder manifests itself around 14 or 15 is very key. Before that point he was also a good kid. I will pray that you get somewhere with your son but he does sound very similar. I raised 3 children who are now 41, 35 and 31 and are all wonderful. We had our share of teen angst etc. but nothing like this. We have no idea what happened but suddenly it did--and he was raised in the same family, same values etc. I wish you luck, you do still have time. I remember when we did and nothing helped. It would seem our time has run out. I have never given up on anything in my life--guess I'll continue to reach out to offer professional help but just cannot enable him anymore. Thanks Again!

Warm Regards,

Pat

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