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12 Mar 2010 @ 9:30 PM
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Help! Too Many Possible Diagnosis

My "child" (not really my child but might as well be) was diagnosed a couple of years ago with bipolar disorder when he was in a shelter. He was given meds for it but went off at some point. When he was about 7 (he is now almost 20) he was diagnosed with ADHD and given meds then but taken off at some point. A few months ago he was evaluated by a psychiatrist for state vocab rehab agency. He was given a bunch of possible diagnoses: ADHD, bipolar disorder, PTSD, mood disorder...you name it. PTSD was mentioned because he was physically, mentally, emotionally and financially abused by his mom. The physical abuse stopped for the most part when he was 14, but the rest went on until he finally left permanently a couple months ago. He is now struggling in college on no meds at all. It took me moving heaven and earth just to get him seen by a clinic in a small town when he has Medicaid only and he hasn't been seen by the psychiatrist at all yet--I am hoping he will be seen before spring break. He does not seem bipolar to me--no manic episodes. Not a lot of real highs--more lows, anger...which can pass in minutes, hours or a day...not too much longer than that. I am not sure he ever seems truly happy but he does laugh and can have fun. When I went to visit him a few weeks ago, he was mostly fairly happy the entire time it was me (I would like to think it was my presence). He has no grandiosity at all--no self esteem at all. He is very scared of a lot of things and is almost always anxious. He can't relax and has trouble sleeping.

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22 Mar 2010 @ 6:24 PM Reply # 1
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Anybody out there?

No one has responded...anyone out there?

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9 Jun 2010 @ 1:44 PM Reply # 2
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another possible diagnosis-sorry to confuse further

Onemore possible diagnosis, given his history of avuse and shelter life. RAD - Reactive attachment disorder. Who wouldn't have symptoms, given this person's history?v

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3 Oct 2010 @ 10:18 PM Reply # 3
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Could be anything

Unfortunately it is difficult to get a definitive diagnosis because who really knows? Or at least the Dr's we've been "fortunate" to run into don't seem to. Like yo we have a cocktail of diagnosis. My son refuses to accept the ADHD diagnosis but has to accept the bipolar one because the meds work, no more manic episodes. Try using all the suggested natural remedies tips for success in school. Certainly won't hurt. As for the others you might wanta to do your own differential, treat only as the occasion arises, not as if they exist.

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3 Oct 2010 @ 10:21 PM Reply # 4
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how about...

For example treat for anxiety since that seems to be the most prevalent symptom. Try meditation, breathing, finding out what makes him most anxious and then come up with some ways to eliminate those situations. Add meds as needed and start with natural ones first. Then move up to other means if there is no resolution. the two of you working together rather than you alone trying to find a solution i think helps with that age group. Keep us posted on his progress.

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3 Oct 2010 @ 10:28 PM Reply # 5
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Help! Too Many Possible Diagnoses

You may have hit the nail on the head with the Reactive Attachment Disorder. Since the time I posted this, things have completely disintegrated. He is barely talking to me. When he does talk to me, he is mean and nasty. I spoke to him on Friday and things went badly. He begrudgingly agreed to speak to me tonight but did not pick up. He has not gotten to anything he needs to get done...and is going to get himself into trouble. In the meantime because I promised I would give him space I have to sit on my hands...I am so miserable right now.

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4 Oct 2010 @ 9:40 AM Reply # 6
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DX isn't Everything

As much as you want to find an accurate diagnosis, to get the right help, it sounds to me like this young man needs help ASAP. After all, a there's no magic to a diagnosis that it will somehow solve the problems by just calling them by the right name. It sounds like these problems developed over his entire childhood, and I doubt that there is any quick fix, even medication may only have some small measure of positive effect. A therapist he can really connect with may be able to narrow down what the real problem (or problems) are eventually, with a great deal more accuracy and would have the added benefit of actually helping him, too. This really could be AD/HD with all kinds of secondary issues developed, and whatever you call it, RAD? or just a basic human reaction to having been abused/neglected at the most vulnerable time in his life (his childhood). He needs quality therapy, to get his life back from all of this. I think the best thing anyone can do for him is encourage him to pursue that. A clinical social worker would have knowledge of various services, and he may have more options in terms of finding real help while on Medicaid, as at least a few of them are more willing to accept it. You may want to do a little research, maybe contact a few professionals in your area that accept his "insurance" and are up for possible long term therapy, without giving his information to them, of course. Then sell him a little on the benefits, and on the fact that dealing with this isn't a weakness, it's help he has a right to pursue, just like he has a right to get his life back from all of these terrible circumstances. I think this young man is fortunate that someone is looking out for him (you). Everything happens for a reason.

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4 Oct 2010 @ 6:03 PM Reply # 7
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Too many possible diagnoses

Believe me, I know he needs a quality diagnoses ASAP. Unfortunately: 1) he is mad at me and won't talk to me, 2) I am not where he is, I am about 7 hours away, 3) He has Medicaid and 4) He lives in a small community where options are limited, especially with Medicaid. Even here in NYC, with Medicaid it was tough. Right now, especially since he won't communicate with me, there is nothing which I can do.

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8 Oct 2010 @ 12:56 PM Reply # 8
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Good Comprehensive Eval...

There really is not easy way on this one other than a comprehensive eval.

ADHD and many other psychological disorders are often diagnoses of exclusion. That is, you do not test positive for them. You have to establish every possible explanation for the signs and symptoms that are presented and establish level of impact. Then, you have to systematically rule out every other possible explanation.

My bias is that neuropsychologists and educational psychologists with a strong neuro-background - on average - do the best jobs in comprehensive evaluation.

However, it is really more about the quality of the practitioner that the letters after their name.

There are also issues with payment, insurance, etc. that make things more complicated.

In the end, there is a huge difference between an average eval and a great eval.

http://askdreric-schoolpsychologist.blogspot.com/

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