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9 Jan 2010 @ 10:37 PM
sakura_kefir Join Date: Sat 9th Jan 2010
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Adult with Learning Problems. Please Help.

hello, i am new. i hope i get some good advice. i am 23 will be 24 at the end of the month and i need some help. ever since i was a kid, my teachers wanted to put me in special classes and not test my learning. all my life, my teachers were complaining that i dont pay attention, it wasnt a once in a while, it was becoming a problem.

i used to have a good memory when i was a kid, as i got older that became a prob. my teachers would complain that my grades weren't good as the "smart kids" and how i didn't excell academically. i excelled in music by playing the violin, but i played that for a year in 4th grade. my teachers always complained that my study habits were bad. i actually get bored when studying, i really do.

for example, i will study my notes/textbook for 5 mins then my mind will go off to something else - its always been like that since i was a child. i read in an ad/dh book that people who have the problem tend to start things but never finish them that is totally me. when i do read, i cant remember what i just read.

i would read it, then forget it not remembering what i need to know for a test. another example would be have me think of an idea for a project for the group, i would sit there all day thinking of an idea and wont come up for the idea until the last minute. then i would get yelled at and embarrassed not only by the group but in front of the whole class, it has happen way 2 many times i almost cried. my teachers complained that i was 2 slow that i couldn't learn as quickly as the normal students and that i'm not reaching my full potential.

so, studying became a huge prob for me academically even now when i was in college and working. i read some ad/dh books and it helped me realized my probs that i've been struggling for a long time. it was just like what my k-12 teachers have said. i never got tested for a learning problem, i don't need a test to determine what's wrong. i started noticing a problem when i was in middle and high school. i had one high school teacher who was gonna get me help, but me and her ended up having a huge fallout about something else and argued until i got kicked out of the class, so i never got the help nor was it my fault we got into that nasty argument.

i cant really sit and listen to someone talk, my mind goes somewhere else and i don't pay attention i have to say can u say that again like 5 times? so i can understand what the person was saying and i noticed that frustrated people a lot. it caused me to cry.

directions and instructions have to be repeated to me quite a bit so i can understand. i can hear it, but it doesn't sink in memory wise. i read that ad/dh people have problems in school. my old doc wanted me to have a neurological scan done for emotional problems i never told him about my learning problems. i cant really talk to counselors or professors about my prob they always say you are not studying hard enough i wanted to tell them well shit the memory chain in my brain breaks when it comes to remembering shit for a damn test! i wanted to scream at them!

i read so much in those books but i wont make a novel about what i was reading. my parents never took me to have my learning tested. i'm sorry but if i am learning something i will get bored 2 easily. everything i try to learn becomes so boring to me, i suffer from chronic boredom that's what i read in the books and online. whats strange is listening to something that's interesting/passionate seems to make me feel so bored that i space out into a different realm.

if u were explaining to me about science, i will get interested then end up losing interest in it becasue i got super bored about it even though i am interested in it. when it comes to academics, i get very bored reading a textbook or sitting down practicing something. i just fidget so much and do something else forgetting my assignments/projects completely. i would come home with half done or didn't do the assignment(s).

So, it is hard for me to excel in academics yet alone a job when i am a very slow learner. i have racing thoughts that prevent me actually doing things. its hard to learn when u got all of these problems and u cant function like a normal person. i would get yelled at constantly and get called stupid all the time, who wants to hear that?

however, from what i was reading, it listed things that i've always suffered from all my life. the things i take seriously is what ppl/teachers have told me: very slow learner academically, never paying attention, memory chain being broke and cant recite what i read or put it to use by hand, not living to my potential, slow in auditory, poor study habits, chronic boredom, etc. when it comes to practicing things, it takes forever and i cant get the skills i need in a certain amount of time.

i get distracted easily like 2 much every lil' thing i see or hear distracts me. i do not take prescriptions, i dont take prescriptions at all - i only take herbs for my health only becasue i am eco friendly. i was wondering does anyone have any advice about my learning? i do learn visually and by using my hands, most cases i end up being confused by my own learning style when learning things.

my question is can someone help me? any advice?

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25 Jan 2010 @ 9:57 AM Reply # 1
additude23old Join Date: Mon 25th Jan 2010
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i read your message.

if you get help ,please send it to me..please, causei feel the same way..thanks in advance..

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26 Jan 2010 @ 1:25 PM Reply # 2
ambron1 Join Date: Tue 23rd Sep 2008
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Adult with Learning Problems

Sakura,

I did not take medication either, my life was a living-- H - E double hockey stick-(H--LL). Now I take Vyvance. Five months after starting Vyvance I got a 5,000 dollar raise on my job.

I had months and months of files under my desk because, the room I had to file in was the size of a closet, and I just couldn't stay in there. I think the first day on my medication I filed 6 months of file in one day. I was 40 when I was diagnosed, so I feel your pain. It's still hard with medication, but I gained the respect from people that I always new I was entitled to. I had to take one company to Civil Rights Court, for discrimination, and I won. Our problems are real, mental issues seemed to be the last on list, but there is hope and funding out there. Start with the Vocational Rehabilitation Services. They will point you to the resources you need to get started on what it is you want to do.

Lets face it, this is the plate GOD gave me, and I am proud of where I've been and where I'm going. I couldn't say that when I was going thru, but I learned how to, and really you never stop going thru with Adhd/learning problems. I am me and I like me. I am in college now and yes it's so hard, but I am smart. It may take me longer, but I promise to challenge myself everyday. I never bought the story about being disabled, just different and there's nothing wrong with different you just have to find what works for you, just don't close yourself off to trying new things. While my peers are gaining weight with the years, that is another advantage about the medication, it causes (allows) me to maintain my size 8 (high school weight). You have to look for the positive in every situation and when all else fails, you say" it could be worse LOL". I'M ALIVE!!!!

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26 Jan 2010 @ 1:25 PM Reply # 3
ambron1 Join Date: Tue 23rd Sep 2008
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Adult with Learning Problems

Sakura,

I did not take medication either, my life was a living-- H - E double hockey stick-(H--LL). Now I take Vyvance. Five months after starting Vyvance I got a 5,000 dollar raise on my job.

I had months and months of files under my desk because, the room I had to file in was the size of a closet, and I just couldn't stay in there. I think the first day on my medication I filed 6 months of file in one day. I was 40 when I was diagnosed, so I feel your pain. It's still hard with medication, but I gained the respect from people that I always new I was entitled to. I had to take one company to Civil Rights Court, for discrimination, and I won. Our problems are real, mental issues seemed to be the last on list, but there is hope and funding out there. Start with the Vocational Rehabilitation Services. They will point you to the resources you need to get started on what it is you want to do.

Lets face it, this is the plate GOD gave me, and I am proud of where I've been and where I'm going. I couldn't say that when I was going thru, but I learned how to, and really you never stop going thru with Adhd/learning problems. I am me and I like me. I am in college now and yes it's so hard, but I am smart. It may take me longer, but I promise to challenge myself everyday. I never bought the story about being disabled, just different and there's nothing wrong with different you just have to find what works for you, just don't close yourself off to trying new things. While my peers are gaining weight with the years, that is another advantage about the medication, it causes (allows) me to maintain my size 8 (high school weight). You have to look for the positive in every situation and when all else fails, you say" it could be worse LOL". I'M ALIVE!!!!

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26 Jan 2010 @ 1:30 PM Reply # 4
ambron1 Join Date: Tue 23rd Sep 2008
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Adult with Learning Problems

woooops, that is so an attention deficit thing to do, and I will hyper -focus on trying to remove my double post and get nothing done all day LOL!!

Sorry for the double post

Ambron1

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3 Feb 2010 @ 1:37 PM Reply # 5
Cliff Isaacson Join Date: Wed 3rd Feb 2010
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Another View of ADD/ADHD

Hopefully, I can help by sharing what I have learned about ADHD during years of pastoral counseling.

My clients taught me about three basic facets of adult ADD. First, there is the tendency of the mind going blank in situations that require thinking, like listening to instructions. Second, there is the inability to concentrate when reading something that requires thinking - reading novels may be no problem. The third facet of ADD is compulsive thinking interfering with sleep.

My clients helped me learn that ADD seems to be rooted in memories created at about two years of age. It goes like this: the two-year-old cannot separate thinkng and doing. What he thinks and what he does are the same thing for him. When the child gets into trouble, and what two-year-old doesn't?, the child concludes that he got into trouble for thinking. This left him with subconscious memories that make it feel dangerous to think.

These early memories in the adult interfere with thinking,. When a situation requires thinking the subconscious responds with fear, shutting off thinking so the mind goes blank. Similarly, when studying something that requires thinking the subconscious fear makes a person do anything rather than think. However, at night in bed it feels safe to think so thinking becomes compulsive.

To relieve ADD we begin with the fact that the two-year-old experiences inner conflict between the fear of thinking and the need to think, a subconscious conflict that continues into adulthood. In the adult the fear of thinking kicks in during the day, the compulsion to think kicks in at night. Because ADD is subconsciously driven it may feel hopelss because you cannot control the subconscious. But, you can give it suggestions. The suggestion I use in counseling is "I want your subconscious to forget those memories that make you think." This seems to neutralize the obsessive/compulsive memory in three to six weeks so that thinking improves. Sometimes the effect is apparent before that. To improve the effect a second suggestion can be made that says, "I want your subconscious to remember those memories that let you think." If you post these on the refrigerator where you can see them it may help to bring about improvement. It may seem off-the-wall but you have nothing to lose by trying it.

To help others the therapy can be made into a statement that says, "Forget making yourself think, just let yourself think." This may seem totally inadequate for ADD but it would be shameful to not use it if it would help someone. Try it. I know a school counselor who uses it effectively with elementary school age children with ADD.

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8 Feb 2010 @ 8:57 PM Reply # 6
imponderable Join Date: Fri 26th Sep 2008
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try a different approach

Get a friend to help you. I just needed a new approach. Organize, color code, do as much hands on and visually. If you keep trying to tackle the same problem the same way it doesn't work. Teachers and others are willing to help you if they see you are working hard. If you have someone helping you friend or counselor you will see the change.

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12 Feb 2010 @ 9:52 AM Reply # 7
redartglass Join Date: Thu 27th Mar 2008
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Learning Problems

You have clearly described the mental life of those of us with ADHD. My improvements have come from a couple of different sources. The first is medication. I take Concerta, which has worked well for me. It changes my thinking from muddy to clear. I am not physically hyperactive, but I am mentally hyperactive. My mind is like a bucking bronco, and I have always said that Concerta calmed down the bucking bronco. I started taking Concerta at about age 48, after my sister was diagnosed with ADD and started on it. My short term memory problems are not quite as bad as yours, but they are not good. I have taken some college classes since I have been on Concerta, and I find I can concentrate better, but I still can't remember certain types of things. My auditory learning, by what I hear, is particularly poor. It helps me a lot if I take notes. If I am reading a book for a course and have to remember certain things, I must write them down. That activates two other ways of learning, vistual - seeing what I am writing, and kinesthetic - the physical writing, strengthen the learning process for me. There are certain things we have to take responsibility for with ADHD, and one of them is to determine our learning style and develop the self discipline to use that style.

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