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11 Sep 2009 @ 3:22 PM
exhausted625 Join Date: Fri 11th Sep 2009
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Help! Almost 13-yr-old Son Getting Into Trouble

Hello I am new to the group. My son is almost 13 (October b-day), and he was diagnosed when he was almost 5 and has been on medication since he was 6. He has had medication breaks over the years but his symptoms are out of control without it. I haven't a clue how to keep my child from getting himself into trouble all the time. That's with his medication. He is constantly talking back he has to argue about EVERYTHING, of course he knows it all. It's too the point on some things I'll get online to prove him wrong and tell him if he wants to have a debate make sure he has all the facts. He was recently caught experimenting with cigarettes, and had a pocket knife stashed in his belongings. He lacks motivation. Since he's been getting into trouble I decided it would be best to keep him busy so I signed him up for football. He's been in some organized sports/activities but has quit everything. I don't like to force my children to do things they may not be interested in. However, I see a pattern of giving up now. Anyhow, I signed him up for football, which he said he wanted to do too. We are only in to the second week of practice no games yet and he wants to quit. He came out to the car yesterday crying how he wasn't feeling good. I knew he was just trying to get out of practice. He's intimidated easily both by people and hard work. I made him go and he was glad afterward. But I just have a feeling this is gonna be an on going thing with him not wanting to go. I feel bad forcing him, but as I told him I don't think I'm doing him any favors by allowing him to give up on things just because its a little hard. Football may not be his thing, but I believe he should finish it out. He was supposed to pick a sport last year and he didn't pick any so I am picking them for him this year. I'm not involving him more than one sport/activity at a time. Any suggestions on how to keep up his motivation? I do use a lot of encouraging words with him he just doesn't seem to hear them......

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14 Sep 2009 @ 11:18 PM Reply # 1
d.r.johnson Join Date: Mon 6th Jul 2009
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re-eval

When was your son's dosage re-evaluated? He's physically changing and may need different or more medication.

I think your idea of keeping him busy and in structured activity is right on target. It might be that you haven't found the right thing. Or it might be that your son's not able to concentrate. Or he may be having some emotional problems that prevent him from feeling part of the group. Perhaps he's depressed? Or, maybe he needs a sport that's less team oriented, like swimming or tennis.

If he's just not athletically oriented, maybe he could get interested in chess or cartooning.

Can you tell us more?

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15 Sep 2009 @ 2:27 PM Reply # 2
exhausted625 Join Date: Fri 11th Sep 2009
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Hello, thanks for responding to my post, I would love to give more information. My sons medication has steadily gone up over the years. However, towards the middle of the school last year his dosage was reduced from 72mg of concerta to 54mg. This was not my decision, and i do feel he needs to be back at the 72 mg. My son was complaining that he wasn't very sociable at school, his dad took that one statement and ran with it. Suddenly dad decided that my sons personality was being affected. I disagree with this immensly! My son has anxiety issues I think that's what made him unsocial, I am like that too. Also, I would be more agreeable to this dosage change during the summer, but during the school year I don't think it's good. He is at school to learn not to socialize. After speaking to his teachers it was determined by myself that he was not withdrawn, just quiet when it comes to chatting. As far as the sport he is in right now, it very well not be his thing and that is absolutely OK, however, I need him to learn to complete something before forming an opinion about it, if he never wants to play after this season again I am fine with that, and I let him know that. After football comes basketball, I want him to have some experiences before he makes decisions. I reflect upon my childhood, and wish so very much someone would have pushed me to be more sociable whether it be with sports or another activity.

Also I am ok with him not wanting to be involved in sports, but not just because it's too difficult, or requires a lot of hard work. I just thought of sports because it's very difficult for him to do any sit down activities, especially after a long day at school, his body wants to move around. I am still open definitely to him exporing any thing he wants even if it was chess. Unfortunately, if I leave the choices up to him like I did last year, he will not pick anything so that's why I want him to try different things so he can make an informed decision on his likes and dislikes.

Thanks again for your response and suggestions......anymore would be greatly appreciated!!

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16 Sep 2009 @ 4:16 PM Reply # 3
d.r.johnson Join Date: Mon 6th Jul 2009
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Boy it's tough when you and the dad aren't on the same page. Are you divorced? Or is he just in denial?

I guess It might be good to drag DH with to the doctor again to discuss each other's perceptions. Maybe the dr would also have both of you and the new teachers fill out Conners questionnaires again too. It sounds to me like ds may also need some attention to his anxiety issues.

Can you figure out what it is that the kid doesn't like about the sports you've picked? Lots of ADHD kids do well with Martial Arts because it teaches self-discipline and is more individual, rather than team or competitive. Acting can sometimes be therapeutic as can horseback riding. For quite a while, my girls loved swimming. I think that gliding through the water was also a pleasant sensory experience.

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18 Sep 2009 @ 10:09 AM Reply # 4
exhausted625 Join Date: Fri 11th Sep 2009
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Well Dad and I are not divorced legally (due to financial reasons) but we maintain separate households. I would say at this point this is the first time we have disagreed on my sons treatment. Our schedule with the kids is this....I pick them up from school on Monday's and they are with me until Friday after school. So dad is only with them Fri afternoon Sat afternoon (he works in mornings) and all day Sunday then takes them to school Monday morning. So I am the one ultimately with the chidren the most, I take care of all their daily school needs and what not. I'm not one in making decisions without doing some kind of research or seeking opinions of others in similar situations. I have been reading on ADHD for more than 10 years. I'm certainly no expert, but I am informed. Dad has done minimal research on the disorder (which by the way he suffers with himself). Currently my child receives his medication and treatment from a neurologist, has been for years. I am thinking of getting him into a psychologist. He only sees the neurologist every 4-6 months, and the visit is often short. I don't think this doctor can make a really informed decision on my child's needs when she hardly knows him even though she's been his doctor for nearly 6 years. As far as the sports thing is going I really think he finally starting to enjoy himself!!!! I asked him if he was glad that I pushed him to continue, he said yes. His first game is Tue the 22nd, I believe he's looking forward to it. I also asked him if he understood why I pushed him, he said he did. I have to say this week was a good week with my son all in all. No major out bursts or temper tantrums Yeah!! A little bit of mouthiness, and aggitating his brother and sister, but nothing got too out of hand, it was a nice change!!

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18 Sep 2009 @ 11:13 AM Reply # 5
ADDitude Editor Join Date: Mon 12th Jan 2009
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Sports

I saw this article about Good Sports for ADHD Children and thought you might appreciate it, especially since you are trying to find a suitable physical activity for your son. Maybe it will give you some helpful ideas. I thought this point was interesting: Team sports are particularly difficult for children with ADHD.

Good luck, Dena

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18 Sep 2009 @ 5:06 PM Reply # 6
d.r.johnson Join Date: Mon 6th Jul 2009
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psychologist vs. psychiatrist

Psychologists cannot prescribe med or order medical tests. They can do psycho therapy but a social worker would be cheaper. Psychiatrists will do the prescription part.

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