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13 Mar 2009 @ 6:49 PM
Seragilo Join Date: Thu 12th Mar 2009
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Oh How the Cynic in Me Cringes...

Afternoon all!

Here I sit, been getting all caught up in this web since a doctor said to me that my chronic insomnia could stem from ADD.....and the story goes...

I have been suffering from insomnia my whole life. I have memories of when I was five listening to Disney Read-a-Long records in my room (on one of those ole plastic kiddie record players) in the wee hours of the morning. Only to be chastised by my sleepy eyed parents, shushing me back to bed. Fast forward to the present and I have been to dozens of doctors who have prescribed everything from Benzodiazepines to Tricyclics to treat 'my' depression, anxiety and/or stress, as I was informed that was the issue....that and 'all women have troubles sleeping', I guess that is printed in one of them medical journals as a woman kind of ailment...insomnia that is.

So, off I go to another sleep clinic, I had to insist of course...purdy much threatened to throw the Doc to the Sleep Gods as a sacrifice if he did not refer me. There I heard a word I have never heard before. 'Bizarre', as in 'your results are bizzare.'

GASP?!?! Say it isn't so?!?!

Imagine the look on my face as I watched this new Doctor frown over my sleep results. Once again fast forward to the (almost) now with another sleep clinic test -this one a Daytime Sleep Latency Test- under my belt, and many...many more visits with the new and very attentive Doc. He suggests that I might have ADD. He questions me about my life as a child, my current ways of life and how my brain felt....Ya, odd eh? But sit back and think about it, we can pin point acts of guilt, regret, extreme highs and lows that we seemed not to have control over, that darn hindsight thingy eh? 20/20 never looked so vivid! Now, he did not diagnose me, but he did put the bug in my brain...like it needed anything else squirming in there. So I start to research, visit a counsellor and Naturopathic Doctor to see if there could be something else, some surpressed memory or allergy...hey I have to keep my options open. I am a firm believer that we are all in control of our actions. I do not believe in the 'Twinky Defence', my heart strings are not pulled for people who feel compelled to rob a bank/store to feed an addiction. If you hate something in your life change it or quit your whining....I see few shades of grey. Oh lookie here, a symptom of ADD, funny isn't it? I mean ADD has so many symptoms that just about anyone could deem themself impared and then use that as a defence, could they? Couldn't I?

So, new fandangled Doc puts me on Alertec. While it is used for narcolepsy it has an off shelf use for many other things, among them ADD. I was not given it so much for the ADD but as a stimulant to keep me up during the day, heck tis good enough for fighter pilots should do me the trick. Doc thought that if trying to get me to sleep during the night was not working he would stimulate the old noggin' during the day in hopes of forcing it to sleep/shut off in the evening. My insomnia comes in ebs and flows and was like a earthquake about to create a massive tidal wave in the middle of an ocean. I have taken just about everything legal and...ahem not, to try to sleep, why not this?

Well folks, while my sleep did not get better my daily activities did. It was like my mouth was given a pause button and my brain was in charge. The 30 year old film that was over my eyes seemed to be peeled back and I viewed the world in a whole new way. Sure a few of my physical ailments were somewhat noticable, the burning eyes, the tense muscles but we have to remember I was still not sleeping. I figured if this is what awake felt like, gimme more of it, and now darnnit!

Hence, here we are today in the very present. Alertec burns through the system very quickly and the good ole Doc, whom I have been seeing for years now, changes the drug of choice to Concerta. I took it for a bit and felt ok, started me looking into the ADD thing with more of an open mind....researching more, assessing the life of me and my family. I was (am) not totally convinced I suffer from ADD. I mean, just about everyone can turn into a raving hypochondriac when symptoms are placed infront of them. This we know from the ever pressing drug ads...heck, I have suffered from strokes, heart attacks and acid reflux if I just close my eyes and listen to the symptoms. I have even wondered about ED and I am a gal!!!! Ahh, the power of advertising.

So, where does this leave me?

Puzzled really. ADD seems to have stemed from actual brain issues, like what ya get if you eat lead paint. Now-a-days just about anyone is ready to label some poor kid as ADD or ADHD and drug the wee youngster. I am afraid that this once rare thing has turned into a self defence mechanism that everyone wants to use as an excuse for poor behaviour, did I mention my lack of seeing shades of grey? Parenting has gone by the wayside in this 'Me' generation giving into lazy, narcissistic tots who forget the meaning not only of respect but manners. Doubt me? Look up 'Helicopter' or 'Curling' Parents, have a good ole laugh. Working hard seems to be something of the past. Earning one's keep or climbing up the ladder has been passed by for instant gratification and 'No Child Left Behind'. People are losing sight of what it is like to be responsible for their own actions blaming every ailment fresh out of a Drug Company....oh yes, yes there is a conspiracy sigh, but I digress.

How do I make myself see that my issues are symptoms? How do I lay blame for a messy house, financial upheaval and personal woes on three little letters? Maybe I was not given the proper life skills. Maybe I lack the drive to cure my constant procrastination. Could it be possible that I am just lazy? That my insomnia stems from something other than ADD and this drug will just do what it says it is.....stimulate me to keep me awake, fooling my tired body into thinking it is not as tired as it really is?

Maybe I should just shut up, take the drug and call it a day.

Thanks for listening, I will probably be back for more ramblings as they come to me..... Seragilo

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17 Mar 2009 @ 6:05 PM Reply # 1
lacookie63 Join Date: Tue 17th Mar 2009
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oh how the cynic in me cringes.....

Well, I think you should take your medication so that it helps you to cope with your symptoms. Yes, its very easy to have a dr slap you a script, with the hopes that'll make the problems go away, and then you can blame your laziness on a "disorder". I think you have to deal with the grief of knowing what could have been if you'd been dx earlier. I'm in that stage of feeling that way. I too have had chronic insomnia for all of my adulthood, probably had it in childhood too. Just thought everybody had insomnia due to stressors of life. I (46F) was dx with ADD Oct 2008, my first thought was wow, that totally explains all the weird stuff in my life. I've forever asked myself what IS my PROBLEM? I'm such a loser. Why can't I hold on to a job? It wasn't that I couldn't hang on to it, it was that I got bored very easily & wasn't able to talk to a supervisor to ask for more responsibility because my mind raced ahead to several other things & I couldn't communicate to them what I wanted/needed. I'd ditch the job looking for the next exciting opportunity not realizing the problem was a chemical imbalance in my brain. You mean there's a reason why I lose my keys/cell phone/pen the second I put it down? There's a reason why I haven't been able to finish a lot of things? There's a reason why my mind circled through dozens of ideas, but rarely slowed down long enough to follow through to the end with a lot of them? There's a logical explanation for why I procrastinate? For why my self esteem is crappy? Others can't watch tv & read a book at the same time?!? I thought everyone could do that! You mean your friends only hear your voice in a restaurant, they don't hear the background noise like I do - every sound inside, as well as, the ones outside of the building have the same volume? Why won't my mind SHUT THE HELL UP at night so I can sleep?!?

I take 40mg Strattera; its made a lot of the symptoms subside to a coping stage, but I think my dosage needs to be bumped up a step because I still have the irritability that's more than just an annoyance. I still have bouts of insommnia, but my mind finally has shut up, I just can't get to sleep. Probably doesn't help that I've been looking for a job for a year & a half, which has been fairly stressful. I've also been working towards a bachelors degree since 2000. I take Trazodone (prescribed to me for its side effect - causing sleepiness) sometimes, but often wake up with that druggy feeling. I've also been doing group therapy to help with my coping skills (learning how to set boundaries for family, learning how to talk to people without my mind racing) & that has helped a great deal. My family hasn't been very supportive, I think they're in denial & probably think I'm just unmotivated to get ahead in life; doing school for the last 7 yrs says otherwise. At least my friends are supportive, that has made a huge difference. I'm viewing life with a different look now, things are different from the "haze" that was covering my eyes. Careerwise I feel I should be at the same level as my peers (its hard not to compare), my finances are totally messed up, but hey, at least I don't have a drug/alcohol addiction (although I do admit to having a fondness for sipping expensive tequila at times!). I guess I'm viewing life in the "grief" stage now while trying to find a job in this wacky economy and trying to decide if I'm going in the right direction with my degree.

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27 Mar 2009 @ 5:53 PM Reply # 2
walrus Join Date: Fri 27th Mar 2009
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Hi Seragilo

The insomnia comes from the ADD brain being a data collector that doesn't want to stop. The ADD brain is stuck at collecting data, collecting data, collecting data. When you try to stop so you can sleep, it won't. You have to trick it into shutting down the data collecting. I do it by not watching heavy duty TV for the last 2 hours before bed (science politics, stuff that really makes you think)...I watch light stuff (comedy) for the last hour, then I read light stuff comics for the last half hour to an hour. By this time, your ADD brain has slowed it's data collecting enough to be able to sleep.

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31 Mar 2009 @ 1:22 PM Reply # 3
Anni Join Date: Thu 25th Oct 2007
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Hi there:

I can understand your cynicism and your hesitation to fall head-over-heels in love with a diagnosis that you hear all too often on playgrounds and in first-grade classrooms these days. But if the shoe fits... well, dance in it!

A few things you should know: Historically, doctors have done a horrible job of diagnosing women with ADD, which is still considered an adolescent male disorder by many. Wrong. The symptoms are different in women, and it takes time and attention to diagnose them correctly. I'm not saying you definitely have it or don't have it. I'm just saying that it's not entirely unreasonable for doctor after doctor to have missed this.

I would recommend reading through our special guide about ADD and Women - it's jam-packed with articles about symptoms, treatment, organization help, etc.

And let us know how things turn out for you!

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