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| Allison |
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IEP vs. 504 Questions
Posted by Allison - Jan 7 2009 @ 1:44 PM What qualifies a child for IEP & how to get assistance w/504? I recently met with the middle school counselor and school psychologist to find out the differences in supports provided by an IEP and a 504. The psychologist told me that an IEP does not provide supports or accomodations for executive function problems such as organization. He also said that our daughter doesn't qualify for an IEP because she is succeeding academically. He claimed that she was best off with a 504, which provided the "least restrictive environment." He also said that she could not be assisted by a peer helper because that would involve another student in a 504 plan. He assured me that the school personnel would "take care of her." After 6 years of such assurances, with small results, I am at a loss. Our daughter's private counselor had recommended that we request an IEP for her because coping with the demands of middle school is quite stressful for her due to her poor executive functions. She is currently on a 504, and has been since 4th grade, but throughout her adademic journey, teachers have consistently refused to make sure she records homework in her planner, packs the needed materials for homework, and turns in completed homework and classwork on time. They say it is her responsiblity and that she must learn these skills to survive in the "real" world. No educator has been willing to use behavior modification techniques to teach her to complete these tasks. The most they have done is add another step for her to complete - bring her planner up to be signed after recording homework, leave homeroom to record homework in another class, get parent signatures on papers. Teachers have scolded, punished, and nagged, failing to see that no change occurred. Some have given gentle reminders and treated her more kindly than others. She has been extremely depressed and emotional at times, and says she is "stupid." She holds it together at school, but often has long crying spells when she gets home. Is the school psychologist correct when he says our daughter doesn't qualify for an IEP? Is that something that varies from district to district? Is it true that an IEP doesn't address executive function skills, but only academic skills? Do you have any suggestions about how I might get this seemingly simple assistance for my daughter? Thank you! |
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| Anni |
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ADHD Accommodations
Hello there: How frustrating! I'm not an expert on ADHD accommodations, but it sounds like you're not getting all the help your daughter needs or deserves. In general, the process goes like this... 1. Get a school-sponsored evaluation 2. If your child qualifies for special-ed services under the Individuals with Disabilities Education Act (IDEA), you will become part of the team that develops an Individualized Education Program (IEP). The IEP specifies your child's educational goals and how those goals will be met -- my understanding is that those goals and accommodations can indeed include organizational things. For more official insight, take a look at the federal Education Department's Guide to the Individualized Education Program. It describes the required provisions of an IEP and even shows a sample plan. I would also recommend reading ADDitude's free report about classroom accommodations, which includes more specifics. Good luck and keep pushing - your daughter deserves to succeed at school! |
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| Allison |
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IEP vs. 504 questions
Thank you Patti and Anni for all your good advice. I will follow through on it. |
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| eabeam |
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Re: IEP vs. 504 Questions
Here are the bare bones. a 504 plan is accommodations only - You have to have a disability, and it has to be shown to impact learning or other life issues. There are not services or funding streams associated with 504. An IEP provides specialized services - You need to have a disability AND and an inability to access educational benefit without specialized services. Therefore, if they can see that she is receiving an educational benefit. (of which grades are ONE measure, but not the whole story), an assessment would be a moot point. To the question of IEPs and executive functioning, there are very few rules as to what an IEP can/cannot provide (for example medication or medical devices). The IEP has to be designed to allow the student to get an educational benefit in the least restrictive environment possible. If that is cognitive coaching/study skills support, then the need should be met. http://askdreric-schoolpsychologist.blogspot.com/ Quote: Allison said: Posted by Allison - Jan 7 2009 @ 1:44 PM What qualifies a child for IEP & how to get assistance w/504? I recently met with the middle school counselor and school psychologist to find out the differences in supports provided by an IEP and a 504. The psychologist told me that an IEP does not provide supports or accomodations for executive function problems such as organization. He also said that our daughter doesn't qualify for an IEP because she is succeeding academically. He claimed that she was best off with a 504, which provided the "least restrictive environment." He also said that she could not be assisted by a peer helper because that would involve another student in a 504 plan. He assured me that the school personnel would "take care of her." After 6 years of such assurances, with small results, I am at a loss. Our daughter's private counselor had recommended that we request an IEP for her because coping with the demands of middle school is quite stressful for her due to her poor executive functions. She is currently on a 504, and has been since 4th grade, but throughout her adademic journey, teachers have consistently refused to make sure she records homework in her planner, packs the needed materials for homework, and turns in completed homework and classwork on time. They say it is her responsiblity and that she must learn these skills to survive in the "real" world. No educator has been willing to use behavior modification techniques to teach her to complete these tasks. The most they have done is add another step for her to complete - bring her planner up to be signed after recording homework, leave homeroom to record homework in another class, get parent signatures on papers. Teachers have scolded, punished, and nagged, failing to see that no change occurred. Some have given gentle reminders and treated her more kindly than others. She has been extremely depressed and emotional at times, and says she is "stupid." She holds it together at school, but often has long crying spells when she gets home. Is the school psychologist correct when he says our daughter doesn't qualify for an IEP? Is that something that varies from district to district? Is it true that an IEP doesn't address executive function skills, but only academic skills? Do you have any suggestions about how I might get this seemingly simple assistance for my daughter? Thank you! |
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