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9 Sep 2008 @ 4:09 PM
Northwesterner Join Date: Tue 9th Sep 2008
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ADD Daughter is a Clutter Collector!

I'm new to the forums. My youngest daughter is 8 and in third grade this year. She is the only member of the family with ADD. We tried stimulant medications and she lost too much weight. She is currently taking only Tenex. She is primarily inattentive and impulsive, not so much hyperactive. She has had difficulty with reading and math, but she has an IEP and we are working closely with the school.

I'm writing about her organizational problems. She cannot seem to put anything away. The laundry hamper is six steps away from her bedroom, but she cannot get her clothes into it. I have tried to get her to put things away as soon as she is finished with them, but she gets distracted. Her room gets so messy that the idea of cleaning it is completely overhwelming to her. At the beginning of the summer I removed almost all the clutter from her room and labeled everything. There is a spot on her bookshelf labeled "Library Books" in hopes that she will get in the habit of putting library books there instead of losing them. I made her a simple checklist of steps in cleaning her room ("1. Put dirty clothes in hamper...."). I moved most of the toys to the rec room closet and put them into labeled baskets. But by the end of the summer, I had to clear her room again. I took away seven large trash bags full of stuff -- paper, toys, pencils, rocks, pinecones, tote bags full of stuff, whatever. (What is the deal with paper? She removes paper from the recycling bin, cuts it into little pieces, clips the pieces together, and stuffs them into bags. There were probably two bags full of expired coupons and junk mail.)

I read on the organizing forum about a mom who removed everything from her child's room that was smaller than her hand. And I have heard Supernanny Jo Frost say that children should have only 10 toys at a time. I guess I'm looking for permission to simplify her life for her. I think that the visual distraction of a messy room keeps her from sleeping at night. And she is certainly going to have to get more organized as schoolwork becomes more challenging. But she is such a creative person -- she really plays with her toys, building villages out of cars and blocks and Barbie dolls. She just can't seem to put them away. And the little pieces of paper and other "collections" must serve some purpose for her -- if only I could figure out what it was and give her a substitute.

On the other hand, she doesn't seem to miss the stuff I removed from her room. Out of sight, out of mind.

Any ideas?

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10 Sep 2008 @ 10:12 AM Reply # 1
dalejrfan666 Join Date: Wed 10th Sep 2008
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Have son who does the the same

HI - my 8 years son does alot of what your daughter does. The only thing I can say is keep on her before she goes to bed to pick things up. It has come down to me taken the toys away from him, turning the TV off when he's picking up. If need be I stand there making sure he does get side track with something else and for him getting side track is really easy. His brother waiting to talk to him, needs to use the rest room. I alway have to remind him. As far as the paper cutting I haven't figured that one out yet. I thought maybe just the age but now I wonder if it is something more. I hope you can get it under control.

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10 Sep 2008 @ 10:16 AM Reply # 2
jdgardner Join Date: Wed 10th Sep 2008
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how about a social story...

and colorful - eye catching - visual reminders. Social stories are typically used for kids with Autism but I have used them with typically developing kids, kids with ADD and the the entire autism spectrum. It's a positive, personalized story about her doing the task the way you would like it done. Very repetitive. Then you can supliment with colorful posters for her room. With 1 task on each poster. Sally likes her room neat and clean. When Sally gets dressed in the morning she remembers to put her pajamas in the hamper. Good job Sally........ Sally likes to cut paper. When Sally is done cutting paper she put the pieces in the garbage. Excellent! Mom is proud of Sally........ You should read the book with her once a day until she doesn't need the book any longer......One issue at a time. You can fade one out and another one in, if you like. Good luck, Julia

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17 Sep 2008 @ 5:33 AM Reply # 3
ang0609 Join Date: Wed 17th Sep 2008
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Reply to Clutter Collector's Mom

Ah, memories...lol. Your daughter sounds just like mine. She's 12 1/2 now and was diagnosed a few days before she turned 11. Up until that point, she had never managed to clean her room in her life. Doing it for her was not something I was willing to do. On the other hand, me sitting in her room supervising literally took hours and only resulted in frustration for me and for her. So my advice is to make it as streamlined and simple as possible for her. 1. Clear out the room. Like you said, only give her access to 10 toys. The same goes for books. Let her pick out 10 and then next week or next month or whenever, she can trade them in for 10 more. If her clean clothes magically transport themselves from the dresser or closet to the floor like my child's did, reduce the amount of clothing in her room. 2. Put all the little stuff somewhere like the top of her closet and get it down for her only if her room is already clean and if she picks it up immediately after she's done with it. Or better yet, play with the Barbies or the legos together. The time with you is a reward for picking up her room, and when you're done playing, you can help her pick it up. 3. Give her a small container with a lid to put paper items in. When the lid won't close, it's time to get rid of some of it. If she gets it out and doesn't pick it up, it goes in the garbage. This was a big issue for my child. She kept every note she ever got and every paper she'd ever doodled on. 3. Make her a permanent list of the things she needs to do to clean her room. Part of my daughter's problem was that she was overwhelmed and didn't know where to start. She still has this list stuck to the inside of her closet door. My daughter does clean her room now. It isn't always exactly how I'd like it, but it's a vast improvement from where we were 2 years ago. I hope something I said will be helpful! Good luck.

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24 Sep 2008 @ 3:39 PM Reply # 4
Northwesterner Join Date: Tue 9th Sep 2008
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Thanks

Thanks for the suggestions and sympathy. Ang0609, you had some great ideas, and I will try them out. I finally gave up and put a small laundry hamper in her room -- since it's right there, she does put her clothes in it. I guess visual cues are a good thing.

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