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11 May 2008 @ 8:12 PM
Elaine20	Join Date: Sat 10th Nov 2007 Threads: 3 Posts: 150
New Outlook on Life - Part I I've been on this forum for a while and originally I came here because my husband had ADHD and so did both of my children. My husband has the hyperactive type and my 16 year old son and my 26 yr. old daughter both have the inattentive type of ADHD. My son was diagnosed at 10, my daughter shortly after he was diagnosed and my husband 3 years later. Ever since my son had been diagnosed, I read numerous books on ADHD, attended forums and support groups, and did all I could to learn about this disorder and how it affected my family. I learned a lot during that time and tried to keep up with the latest research and findings. I never considered the possibility that I might have ADHD. I had an accounting degree and was far more organized than anyone in my family. I had graduated in the top of my class in high school and although college was more difficult, I still managed to graduate "summa cum laude". I got a job in an accounting firm and managed to do alright. I wasn't able to achieve a management position however. I felt too overwhelmed by some aspects of the job and I assumed my low self-esteem and anxiety kept me from advancing further. Fast forward to January 2008. On a checkup visit for my son, our doctor had told us about some of the latest findings with ADHD and he mentioned that a study comparing individuals with ADHD to individuals without ADHD of the same intelligence level. They found that those with the ADHD consistently achieved a lot less than the individuals without ADHD. They were one school behind the others. If an ADDer graduated high school but went no further, an individual w/o ADD at the same intelligence level tended to have a bachelor degree. this comparison continued with differences between master's degrees and PhD's. That got me thinking. I knew what my IQ was and when I researched more about the capabilities of individuals with various IQ's, it became apparent that I had achieved far less than what my IQ would indicate I was capable of. I never felt smart enough to go on further with my studies. I didn't know how other people could accomplish what they did. My sister and I started talking back and forth about how we felt less intelligent than we should. We compared notes and realized that we had many of the same symptoms and feelings. I was beginning to suspect that I might possibly have ADHD. But then I would tell myself that I was simply overreacting. The idea kept nagging at me but I didn't share it with anyone other than my sister. I anxiously awaited my next doctor visit to ask him what he thought. Quote

Thread : New Outlook on Life - Part I

11 May 2008 @ 8:12 PM

Elaine20

Join Date: Sat 10th Nov 2007
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New Outlook on Life - Part I

I've been on this forum for a while and originally I came here because my husband had ADHD and so did both of my children. My husband has the hyperactive type and my 16 year old son and my 26 yr. old daughter both have the inattentive type of ADHD. My son was diagnosed at 10, my daughter shortly after he was diagnosed and my husband 3 years later.

Ever since my son had been diagnosed, I read numerous books on ADHD, attended forums and support groups, and did all I could to learn about this disorder and how it affected my family. I learned a lot during that time and tried to keep up with the latest research and findings.

I never considered the possibility that I might have ADHD. I had an accounting degree and was far more organized than anyone in my family. I had graduated in the top of my class in high school and although college was more difficult, I still managed to graduate "summa cum laude". I got a job in an accounting firm and managed to do alright. I wasn't able to achieve a management position however. I felt too overwhelmed by some aspects of the job and I assumed my low self-esteem and anxiety kept me from advancing further.

Fast forward to January 2008. On a checkup visit for my son, our doctor had told us about some of the latest findings with ADHD and he mentioned that a study comparing individuals with ADHD to individuals without ADHD of the same intelligence level. They found that those with the ADHD consistently achieved a lot less than the individuals without ADHD. They were one school behind the others. If an ADDer graduated high school but went no further, an individual w/o ADD at the same intelligence level tended to have a bachelor degree. this comparison continued with differences between master's degrees and PhD's. That got me thinking.

I knew what my IQ was and when I researched more about the capabilities of individuals with various IQ's, it became apparent that I had achieved far less than what my IQ would indicate I was capable of. I never felt smart enough to go on further with my studies. I didn't know how other people could accomplish what they did. My sister and I started talking back and forth about how we felt less intelligent than we should. We compared notes and realized that we had many of the same symptoms and feelings. I was beginning to suspect that I might possibly have ADHD. But then I would tell myself that I was simply overreacting.

The idea kept nagging at me but I didn't share it with anyone other than my sister. I anxiously awaited my next doctor visit to ask him what he thought.

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11 May 2008 @ 8:43 PM Reply # 1
Elaine20	Join Date: Sat 10th Nov 2007 Threads: 3 Posts: 150
New Outlook on Life--Part II We talked about the possibility of an ADHD diagnosis. He explained how the symptoms would appear somewhat differently in an individual with a high IQ and how my coping skiills may have masked the ADHD. He told me that since I had originally indicated that I didn't have symptoms of ADHD, I would need to provide him some documentation. He told me to read "Driven to Distraction" (I had read it years ago) and consider if I saw myself in any of the examples given. Then, i would have to provide him with examples of each criteria that I met. I came up with several examples in my life of each of the inattentive symptoms. I didn't have any of the hyperactive/impulsive symptoms. I also typed up a narrative that covered my struggles in life and other symptoms, that although not official criteria, pointed to the likelihood of ADHD. I presented him with 5 typed pages. He was quite impressed. I had an EKG done (or whatever the test is called) and was started on medication. What a difference!! I couldn't believe the difference it made. Suddenly, I was able to accomplish more, finally tackling piles on my desk that had been sitting there for months. I was more efficient and got things done much more quickly. My reading comprehension improved and I wasn't as confused about some things as I used to be. It was easier to organize my thoughts and I "got" things more quickly. I even found that I was able to relate to others in a more thoughtful way. I felt smarter and more self-confident. The only side effect I noticed was a decreased appetite. Since I am overweight and want to lose weight, that is a plus to me. I would love to go back to school and become a neuropsychiatrist but at 47, I don't see that happening. I don't have the time or money to devote to such an undertaking. But I do intend to do something. Just not quite sure what yet. The experience of treating my ADHD with medication is like putting on eyeglasses for the first time. A whole new world is out there that I was never able to see before. My doctor had described the experience in this way: You have been driving a nice Lexus for years when (upon taking medication), you suddenly realize that the parking brake has been on the whole time. That's a perfect description of how I feel. Elaine Quote

11 May 2008 @ 8:43 PM Reply # 1

Elaine20

Join Date: Sat 10th Nov 2007
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New Outlook on Life--Part II

We talked about the possibility of an ADHD diagnosis. He explained how the symptoms would appear somewhat differently in an individual with a high IQ and how my coping skiills may have masked the ADHD. He told me that since I had originally indicated that I didn't have symptoms of ADHD, I would need to provide him some documentation. He told me to read "Driven to Distraction" (I had read it years ago) and consider if I saw myself in any of the examples given. Then, i would have to provide him with examples of each criteria that I met.

I came up with several examples in my life of each of the inattentive symptoms. I didn't have any of the hyperactive/impulsive symptoms. I also typed up a narrative that covered my struggles in life and other symptoms, that although not official criteria, pointed to the likelihood of ADHD. I presented him with 5 typed pages. He was quite impressed.

I had an EKG done (or whatever the test is called) and was started on medication. What a difference!! I couldn't believe the difference it made. Suddenly, I was able to accomplish more, finally tackling piles on my desk that had been sitting there for months. I was more efficient and got things done much more quickly. My reading comprehension improved and I wasn't as confused about some things as I used to be. It was easier to organize my thoughts and I "got" things more quickly. I even found that I was able to relate to others in a more thoughtful way. I felt smarter and more self-confident.

The only side effect I noticed was a decreased appetite. Since I am overweight and want to lose weight, that is a plus to me.

I would love to go back to school and become a neuropsychiatrist but at 47, I don't see that happening. I don't have the time or money to devote to such an undertaking. But I do intend to do something. Just not quite sure what yet.

The experience of treating my ADHD with medication is like putting on eyeglasses for the first time. A whole new world is out there that I was never able to see before. My doctor had described the experience in this way: You have been driving a nice Lexus for years when (upon taking medication), you suddenly realize that the parking brake has been on the whole time. That's a perfect description of how I feel.

Elaine

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15 May 2008 @ 7:03 PM Reply # 2
pmhlb	Join Date: Thu 15th May 2008 Threads: Posts:
Thank you, Elaine / diagnosis at middle age and for seniors After reading your experience, I am encouraged to seek help. What you wrote may well have been written about me! From what I read on the topic, I have not been able to determine that there are any concrete tests for ADD (scientific scans, etc.). Woud appreciate feedback on this. My mom (age 82) is exhibiting all the signs of ADD -- now that her life is no longer hectic taking care of Dad. (Dad died and Mom's symptoms started!) PMHLB Ottawa, Canada PMHLB Quote

15 May 2008 @ 7:03 PM Reply # 2

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Thank you, Elaine / diagnosis at middle age and for seniors

After reading your experience, I am encouraged to seek help. What you wrote may well have been written about me! From what I read on the topic, I have not been able to determine that there are any concrete tests for ADD (scientific scans, etc.). Woud appreciate feedback on this.

My mom (age 82) is exhibiting all the signs of ADD -- now that her life is no longer hectic taking care of Dad. (Dad died and Mom's symptoms started!)

PMHLB Ottawa, Canada

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24 May 2008 @ 11:16 AM Reply # 3
Elaine20	Join Date: Sat 10th Nov 2007 Threads: 3 Posts: 150
Reply to PMHLB Hi! I hope you are still checking out these boards. Sorry I didn't respond sooner. I wish this were set up to alert your email when you have a new response to one of the threads you posted or posted in. There are no concrete scientific tests developed yet for diagnosing ADHD. SPECT scans of the brain's activity have been useful in showing how different areas of the brain are affected, comparing individuals with and without ADHD and the difference on and off medication. But the understanding and technology has not advanced to the point where they can be used as an official diagnostic tool. Perhaps in another 5 to 10 years, they may be able to do that. For now, taking a history of an individual and their symptoms that match the criteria for ADHD is the best way to identify those who have it. An experienced ADHD specialist can be a great help, along with learning what you can and being proactive. "Driven to Distraction" is a good book for helping someone understand how ADHD can present itself in adults and there are also some good books relating to ADHD in Women (authors such as Sari Solden, Kathleen Nadeau, and Patricia Quinn write about adult women with ADHD). I am currently reading the book, "Women with Attention Deficit Disorder" by Sari Solden. I also recently learned that there is a high incidence of ADHD in those with treatment resistant depression. That happens to fit my sister perfectly. She's had problems with depression for years but her ADHD was never picked up. Between the two of us, we virtually diagnosed it ourselves. She will be starting medication when she returns from a vacation out of the country. (The doctor didn't want to start her on any new medication while she was out of the country.) By the way, your mother may also be suffering from depression, with or without ADHD. Depression in the elderly is common, especially after the death of your father, but many times it is missed or the symptoms are attributed to Alzheimer's or aging instead. It is also extremely common for individuals growing up with undiagnosed ADHD to suffer from depression, anxiety, or another psychological disorder as well. 80% of adults with ADHD meet the criteria for at least one other comorbid psychiatric problem. Untreated ADHD can also be a factor in substance abuse, binge eating or eating disorders, and some personality disorders (all of which are psychiatric disorders as well). I have to run now as I have an appointment and errands to do. Good luck. I hope you are able to learn more and find someone who can be helpful to you. Elaine Quote

24 May 2008 @ 11:16 AM Reply # 3

Elaine20

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Reply to PMHLB

Hi! I hope you are still checking out these boards. Sorry I didn't respond sooner. I wish this were set up to alert your email when you have a new response to one of the threads you posted or posted in.

There are no concrete scientific tests developed yet for diagnosing ADHD. SPECT scans of the brain's activity have been useful in showing how different areas of the brain are affected, comparing individuals with and without ADHD and the difference on and off medication. But the understanding and technology has not advanced to the point where they can be used as an official diagnostic tool. Perhaps in another 5 to 10 years, they may be able to do that. For now, taking a history of an individual and their symptoms that match the criteria for ADHD is the best way to identify those who have it. An experienced ADHD specialist can be a great help, along with learning what you can and being proactive.

"Driven to Distraction" is a good book for helping someone understand how ADHD can present itself in adults and there are also some good books relating to ADHD in Women (authors such as Sari Solden, Kathleen Nadeau, and Patricia Quinn write about adult women with ADHD). I am currently reading the book, "Women with Attention Deficit Disorder" by Sari Solden. I also recently learned that there is a high incidence of ADHD in those with treatment resistant depression. That happens to fit my sister perfectly. She's had problems with depression for years but her ADHD was never picked up. Between the two of us, we virtually diagnosed it ourselves. She will be starting medication when she returns from a vacation out of the country. (The doctor didn't want to start her on any new medication while she was out of the country.)

By the way, your mother may also be suffering from depression, with or without ADHD. Depression in the elderly is common, especially after the death of your father, but many times it is missed or the symptoms are attributed to Alzheimer's or aging instead.

It is also extremely common for individuals growing up with undiagnosed ADHD to suffer from depression, anxiety, or another psychological disorder as well. 80% of adults with ADHD meet the criteria for at least one other comorbid psychiatric problem. Untreated ADHD can also be a factor in substance abuse, binge eating or eating disorders, and some personality disorders (all of which are psychiatric disorders as well).

I have to run now as I have an appointment and errands to do.

Good luck. I hope you are able to learn more and find someone who can be helpful to you.

Elaine

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