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17 Apr 2008 @ 11:32 AM
robinbrown Join Date: Thu 28th Feb 2008
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Liar Liar

My son is almost 13 and has been on meds since he was 7. Recently he has been lying and not just little white lies everonce in a while...all the time about everything. In a period of 1.5hrs we caught him it 7 lies.. and those are just the ones we know about. He is really smart but refuses to allow himself to do well in school. He spends more time trying to find a place to hide his homework that I can't find than it would actually take him to complete the assignment. He is becoming increasingly more disruptive in school and now has begun stealing cookies and things out of other kids lunches and taking things from their backpacks and hiding them so the other students can't find it. Yesterday he fell off his bike and refused to move his arm, he made up a story about what happened when it was obvious (since he was covered in dirt) he had gone to the BMX park after school instead of coming straight home as he is supposed to do. He held strong onto that lie until finally 3 hours later he fessed up. It was so strange because he has lied so much over the last 6 months that we weren't even sure if he was telling the truth about his arm being as hurt as he claimed. It turned out he was fine but 3 hours he refused to even move it, it made me feel like a bad parent since I was questioning his injury and trying to pick through the lies more than I was trying to comfort my injured child. The bottom line--My husband and I are at our wits end, and I've read somethings stating ADHD is often a misdiagnosis for Bi-polar...now I'm really starting to wonder. Nothing has seemed to work, different meds, counseling, yelling, talking, grounding...nothing seems to phase him. Last night his teacher told me he had 3 detention slips he hadn't turned in, he had hidden them in his closent and even inbetween his boxspring and matttress when I asked him why he didn't give them to me and what he was thinking knowing I talk to his teachers regularly he said he just wanted to see if he could get away with it...I was floored! We need some serious help here,were lost and don't know what else to do.....

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17 Apr 2008 @ 2:41 PM Reply # 1
Anni Join Date: Thu 25th Oct 2007
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A Few Good Links

Hi Robin:

It sounds like you're facing a terribly rough situation, but obviously you care a great deal about helping your son get better. We've heard from a few other parents like you who see the number of lies begin spiraling out of control around the same age and we've got a few basic articles about bipolar disorder that you might want to read as well...

Problems with Lying: http://www.additudemag.com/q&a/ask_the_parenting_expert/1394.html

Is It ADHD or Bipolar Disorder? Decoding the Symptoms: http://www.additudemag.com/adhd/article/2511.html

Diagnosing Related Conditions in ADHD Children and Adults: http://www.additudemag.com/adhd/article/774.html

Family Rules and Communication: http://www.additudemag.com/q&a/ask_the_parenting_expert/1350.html

I hope these help!

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17 Apr 2008 @ 2:55 PM Reply # 2
Anni Join Date: Thu 25th Oct 2007
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Another Good Article...

...about Oppositional Defiant Disorder: http://www.additudemag.com/adhd/article/879.html

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29 Apr 2008 @ 1:44 PM Reply # 3
Hey Mom Join Date: Tue 29th Apr 2008
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I know where you are right now!

Our son is 14 and does just about the same thing. Ours will sneak food out of the fridge and cupboards and eat it in his room - he's not doing it because we starve him, but because he is not supposed to snack that way between meals. He is really pushing every rule we make, and it gets tiring. You really don't know when to trust them. I have ignored our son when he complains of some injury, because he does exaggerate for attention. I always wait a few hours to see what happens. I don't have an answer for you, except we are finally going to see a therapist about these behaviors and his rebellion in general. It's hard to punish for lying because by the time you find out they are telling a lie, the event has already happened. Sometimes I think our son lies about as easily as he breathes! And if you can't trust someone, you don't have much of a relationship.

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13 Jun 2008 @ 8:06 PM Reply # 4
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Maybe it is his impusiveness

Many ADD are impulsive so when it doesn't work well they rather lie than owning up to it. Still after all these years I would rather have a pencil put in my eye then tell my husband that I impulsively did something. It is a hall mark of this diagnosis to be really inattentive to things lose them or being impulsive . I one time went to Mexico instead of telling my husband that a tentant had not paid his rent the way they were suppose to and left me a large financial hole. Sometimes when we are having problems in the school or hate the the subject we tend to ignore it as if it is going away. Being the class clown or tending to bully is not a hallmark of ADD but it is hallmark of a person who isn't feeling very good about themselves. I wouldn't yell ' but talk calmly and find out what is really going on with him. It may be simply a kid who is hving her hard time fitting in and doesn't know how to make it known.Being honest and calm goes a lot better with us ADD people start to yell and we will just let you because it rwally is a way to stimulate our minds so before you fall into the patttern don't do it.

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18 Aug 2008 @ 3:24 PM Reply # 5
ggerdes Join Date: Mon 18th Aug 2008
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I am SO there with you!

My daughter (diagnosed with Tourette's Syndrome, ADD, OCD) is 16 and a habitual liar of four years now. The problem is so bad that if she tells me the sky outside is blue, I actually have to step outside just to make sure. I've got more gray hairs than I can count because of the constant worrying and following one step behind, and yet nothing seems to make the situation less severe or even register to her that there is a problem. I've simply come to the conclusion that I have to believe everything she says is a lie, double check the facts, and then draw conclusions once I have double (and triple) checked the facts.

One piece of advice I can offer on your situation is regarding your son's assignments. Rather than wait to see what (if any) assignments come home with my daughter, I obtain the e-mail addresses of all of her teachers at the beginning of the year. Each night, I receive an e-mail from her teachers regarding any assignments my daughter has, an outline of the requirements for the assignment, and a due date. If, in the course of conversation, it becomes apparent that my daughter has "lost" an assignment, the teacher immediately e-mails me a new assignment. Furthermore, as part of my daughter's Section 504 IEP, I keep an extra copy of all textbooks at home so that there can never be an excuse of, "I forgot my book."

Hope that helps regarding the school assignments. :)

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