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16 Apr 2008 @ 10:29 AM
michk74 Join Date: Wed 16th Apr 2008
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Not Sure If My Girl Has ADD Symptoms... Help!

Hi All! I just signed up on this forum as I was doing a little research on ADD in girls/kids/gifted. I had not seriously thought of why my 7 yr old would sometimes not finish morning work, or take a long while to do homework until just recently. She is similar to Krista's son who just posted the other day, in that she does not like school and doing any written work. I spoke to her 1st grade teacher yesterday who said she doesn't necessarily see her having ADD, but confirmed that she does sometimes take longer than necessary doing individual classwork, but eventually gets it done. This is a child who does well academically and behaves so it may be hard to detect.

I just thought it is possible because I see her exhibit similar characteristics that I struggled with, drifting/daydreaming when doing individual work. With time limits she can focus in class, which I would have suspected, but when it comes to doing any written work that she does not really like doing it just makes her take even longer.

At home I see her doing this. With homework sometimes it seems to take forever, when it shouldn't. An assignment that should take maybe 10 minutes will take her 20/30 minutes. Plus, as in Krista's case, she will want me to stand there with her while she does her work, as if to maintain her focus. I could be in the same room but she will still want me to stand right next to her without saying anything. If I am not right there she may stop working and play with something or daydream while singing or talking to herself quietly. After a few seconds or up to a minute, she will regain her focus on her own often, but will drift again at some point in the assignment. Her teacher said in class she is not so untypical of other 1st graders.

I remember when I had a paper to do in high school or college I would easily become distracted with my mind daydreaming or drifting and it would take me forever. I'm not sure if she inherited this but it looks possible.

I dare say she is fairly bright, as she was accepted into the gifted program, so her teacher thought that may have some influence as well. That her intelligence and imagination causes her to think of other ideas. I had also read that ADD and Gifted behaviors are similar.

It sounds self degrading but I know I was not born with a high IQ, just average. So I suspect her distraction is not because she is bright but more because she is not interested in her work and doesn't want to do it. Her handwriting is not terrible, just average. It seems her class participation, happy personality, good behavior, and academic intelligence mask this problem.

My main concern is that this will become a larger issue in junior high and high school as I have read. I don't want it to blow up on her then and have school difficulties as I did in regards to finishing tasks in a timely manner. As any parent the sooner I can figure it out the better. I consider what her teachers say as well and as I said, hers doesn't seem to see an issue in the class. I thought, maybe its just in the home environment. But her teacher does acknowledge she takes time to do her work in class too. I don't think she necessarily wants to either. Sometimes she misses recess because she has to finish morning work, and of course she loves recess time. Even with the incentive of, you can't play until you finish, doesn't change things.

And I do think part of the reason she doesn't like to do the work is because of the length of time and mental labor to maintain focus. With math problems I see a typical 1st grader can solve like 4 + 7 within 10 seconds or so max, she may take twice as long which is ridiculous for her because I know what she can do. They've been doing math facts for most of the year now so they have become pretty fast at solving those problems. I know some kids may take longer than 10 seconds but with her intelligence she shouldn't.

The only ADD consideration she has as described is her ability to concentrate on individual school work. Plus she hates school basically because she doesn't like to do the work. Everything else is fine but work. I asked her if she doesn't like to do work because its boring (thinking maybe its too redundant with her intelligence), but she said if she has a math problem like 2+2 she is happy because she doesn't have to think about it and gets the work done faster. So then I know the drifting isn't due to intelligence. She just doesn't want to take the time to think it through, and so then drifts. Its not just with Math though either.

I will continue to watch her behaviors but like feedback in the meantime. What does everyone think? I know a true diagnosis will be from a professional which I may do in the future if I see it necessary.

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16 Apr 2008 @ 10:52 AM Reply # 1
Anni Join Date: Thu 25th Oct 2007
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Some ADDitude Articles

Hi there: You mentioned that you're doing research on ADD in girls, so I thought these articles might help answer some questions about your daughter's behavior...

Diagnosing ADD ADHD Girls: http://www.additudemag.com/adhd/article/1691.html About ADHD in Women: Why Girls and Moms Go Undiagnosed: http://www.additudemag.com/adhd/article/740.html Little Miss Diagnosis: Girls with ADHD: http://www.additudemag.com/adhd-web/article/592.html An Accurate ADHD Diagnosis for Children: http://www.additudemag.com/adhd/article/1591.html

Best of luck!

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1 May 2008 @ 11:30 AM Reply # 2
sunflowers Join Date: Wed 23rd Apr 2008
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We didn't think so either

We fought the ADD diagnosis for a few years until we actually saw some of the traits being manifest in our daughter in both school and home settings. My daughter is 10, but she didn't really start having problems with ADD until 4th grade. However, she also has a learning disability associated with math and memory that has affected her for much longer. It wasn't diagnosed until we realized she wasn't just "not trying hard enough." That came near the end of 4th grade. We couldn't get our school to run diagnostic tests because "she has excellent grades and she seems fine in class...." Luckily, we had been taking her to a psychiatrist and a psychologist because of depression and other issues, and they encouraged us to have her tested. (That's how we found the learning disability--it took us several months longer to capitulate to the ADD diagnosis.) Now that we've accepted the fact, we're seeing evidences of it all the time.

However, our daughter is anything but dumb. In fact, she's very creative, very verbal, and very delightful. She is just very distractible and she can't do math because she can't keep math facts in her memory (part of her learning disability).

But why I'm really writing is to tell you about a book you might want to invest in: "Right-Brained Children in a Left-Brained World: Unlocking the Potential of Your ADD Child" by Jeffrey Freed, MAT, and Laurie Parsons. If you're not sure whether or not your daughter has ADD, read the chapter entitled "The Left-Right Brain Continuum." Freed describes the attributes of left-brain, whole-brain, and right-brain individuals; provides a quiz that helps you decide if your child is left-, right-, or whole-brained; and discusses the connection between having ADD and being right-brained. He includes descriptions of common traits of right-brained/ADD children that just might help you make up your mind. I felt like he was writing about my daughter!

Good luck. It's not easy to accept a diagnosis of ADD, but it's not the end of the world. I'm trying to focus on the positive features of ADD--creativity, energy, etc. Dr. Edward Hallowell is a good source for positive information and another good book is "The Gift of ADHD."

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1 May 2008 @ 3:42 PM Reply # 3
hearth mother Join Date: Thu 1st May 2008
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Giftedness can mask ADD symptoms

(((smiles))) I only recently realized that I have ADHD at age 55. Most of my problems in school and life were attributed to other causes like early childhood trauma (my dad died when I was five). I always knew that other people didn't think like me. I thought the isolation I felt was due to my high IQ. It wasn't. It was primarily the social disconnect that often comes w/ ADHD. I _don't_ think like other people.

But being gifted does help you cope. It also helps you from labeling yourself stupid. I devised many of my own tricks and work-arounds to remember things and get to places on time (keeping a calendar, setting the alarm clocks ahead). For me it made most teachers want to work things out w/ me even when I dropped out of high school and went back. They didn't want to see my potential wasted. I'm still a classic underachiever but since my diagnosis I recognize which of my habits and tendencies are actually symptoms of ADHD. This allows me to work towards establishing new habits that neutralize the ADHD tendency or problem.

I hated most kinds of homework but since I was a sponge for input I loved learning. I loved school but by jr. high couldn't bring myself to sit still in class and went through years of truancy issues. I would get upset when a teacher would fail me for not doing homework in spite of getting A's and B's on the tests. Apparently in some schools they care more about your ability to obey authority and follow the rules than if you know the subject matter.

One of the things I've realized recently is that a large task or one that will take a long time is daunting and gets put off as much as possible. If I break it into smaller "bites" I know I can enthusiastically (knowing it wil be easy and won't take long) tackle each one and feel good about finishing that task. This provides some postive reinforcement which builds confidence. I had a terrible time w/ writing assignments, especially large ones in high school and college, until I took a composition class that focussed on prewriting steps. This gave me a process that broke the assignment in to smaller easier tasks.

If math homework is the problem turn it into a game or contest broken up into smaller components. I never had a problem w/ math because for me it was visual. I'm one of the few success stories that came out of the New Math program in the 1960's. I learned number theory and geometry from 2nd grade on. It was interesting enough to trigger hyperfocus in me.

The ability to hyperfocus is a boon. If your child can learn to turn it on it will help her to put the information into long term memory which makes it easier to recall.

I hope this has helped.

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5 May 2008 @ 8:40 PM Reply # 4
stew4aa Join Date: Sat 19th Apr 2008
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She seems bored

Sounds like she is bored. I was very bored in school. Get her tested, outside of school and go from there. I know being a girl with this is devastating and can lead down many undesired paths if not diagnosed and treated. I was lucky that my parents fought for me, but life was hard...and they never knew because back then it was just boys. I was called lazy, didn't pay attention, unorganized and etc. This is teachers, Sylvan learning centre (in 1979 early 80's) in the summer, Tutors......everyone said it.

But if they didn't catch my attention in the 1st 5 minutes forget it. Doing homework in a quiet room was torture!

I would go in knowing more that when I came out.

Have to have back ground noise.....

Email me if you want to discuss somethings, I don't read things in big block paragraphs well, I get about 10 senteces down then you loose me...lol so email me some specifics and I will try to help you!

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10 Sep 2008 @ 10:34 PM Reply # 5
CTmom Join Date: Wed 10th Sep 2008
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Gifted + ADD + Girl

My daughter is very intelligent. Her insights occasionally draw double-takes from adults who care enough to listen to her. She beats me at chess. She taught herself to read without ANY help by the time she was 4 years old.

At the same time, she was diagnosed with ADHD at the end of kindergarten, and even her preschool teacher had suggested she be tested for it. She's just that obviously affected by the disorder. Despite her intelligence, she finds it extremely difficult and stressful to complete school work and homework in the alotted time - if at all. I can't understand why she puts so much energy into resisting her school work; if she'd just redirect her energy, she'd have the task completed in no time.

Anyway, I can sympathize. It's frustrating to watch a child you know is smart struggle like that. It just doesn't seem fair.

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4 Dec 2008 @ 8:36 PM Reply # 6
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My daughter, age 11, was just diagnosed with ADHD, presenting symptoms of inability to focus, mild depression and anxiety.

It really didn't rear it's ugly head until this year with the start of 6th grade. They say until then, bright children, especially girls, can cover it up .. their grades are good, they sit still in class, etc etc .. and that's why girls get missed being diagnosed. So, even though, our daughter had innocuous comments on her report cards such as "needs to be more organized" etc ... no alarm bells went off with ANY of her teachers (possibly not educated in ADHD in girls and how it presents itself). A red flag went up with her teacher this year, difficulty in math, she saw no close friendships in class (ADHD girls have trouble in this arena, unable to decipher the social cues so important to pre-teen girls) ... but even then, I don't think her teacher is completely convinced even with the diagnosis .... they often tell girls they "have to try harder" or "study harder" and their brains just aren't wired for that to help.

There is a GREAT book ..."Understanding Girls with AD/HD" by Kathleen Nadeau .. awesome book with lists age by age of what should be observed and looked for.

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