Your Defiant Child by Russell Barkley has been very helpful to me. My kid is only 8 and can be physically maneuvered so I do a lot of maneuvering. I know that it won't last long, so I'm doing it while I can!

I actually have one of those dog collars, and have actually considered it! Didn't, though, because my husband refused to press the button (Just Kidding)!

Token economy, drugs, patience, and love!

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chompjack said: Hey -- all 3 of my boys (18, 12 and 7) have recently been diagnosed ADHD and it looks like i will be receiving the same diagnoses soon. overwhelming sometimes, but never boring! It's my middle son who is the real handful. Besides being very hyperactive, he is EXTREMELY smart. he's been resisting my 10 pm bedtime (which i feel is way more than generous) by annoucing he doesn't intend to go to bed and i can make him. Now, this is true. i physically cannot make him go to bed. and he doesn't care what punishments are put in place -- probably because he knows i won't remember a day from then. Lately my eldest son has been intervening and physically carrying his brother up to bed at bedtime. Liam annouced that i can put him in his room but i can't make him sleep. i agreed with him and said i didn't really care if he slept, as long as he was quiet. Foolish me, never let them see you sweat! he now spends several hours singing at the top of his lungs, keeping everyone in the household up. while i admire his creativity, i would really like some sleep. any suggestions? i was thinking maybe one of those dog collars that gives a shock when he's too loud but someone suggested that might be against the law . . .

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He says he doesn't care about consequences, but he cares about something. Tie in consequences to what he cares about, whether it's going out with friends, TV, skateboarding. Perhaps because you are so tired because you can't sleep at night with the noise, you don't have the energy to drive him to the mall, or the energy to make him anything more elaborate than a peanut butter sandwich for dinner

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I have 3 boys, 6yr old Aspergers, 10 yr old Adhd and 16 yr old Adhd. I have adhd and I suppect that my husband has Aspergers. I stopped doing stuff for my 16yr washing, cleaning up, driving him places also I don't let him use my electricity for his playstation and tv etc..we tried taking stuff off him and the fight was they are my things you can't take them from me...So i thought that he won't be taking things from me now and he can not say much about that it is my house and my things. Grounding from his friends doesn't work because then he makes my life at home hell...he walks around singing all the time at the top of his voice it drives me mad....when he forgets his medication he is like this.When he is on medication, eats well and takes his vitamins. He is so nice to be around. As for the little ones I take their bike from them and I don't let them have free time.(they get free time in the afternoon to go out and ride their bikes or do what they wish). And I am lucky I don't forget much as I used to now that I am on medication I follow through with the punshment . When we write the punshment down we don't forget and my son can't say "you didn't say that " Not to say that my house is calm and my kids are well behaved .(I want to runaway at times)But the bad days are getting less

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What I would try is to let him decorate his room. Make it a place he likes to go to. Stars on the ceiling and maybe a fish tank. The sound of running water is peaceful. Take him out for an adventure some night when he behaves and explore the night. Listen for owls and peepers. During the week when it is bedtime go to his room and spend some time with him talking about what he likes and dislikes. You could tell him you love him and that you need to rest so you can be productive and not stressed out in the morning. Ask him what type of quiet things he may like to do at night . Paint, write, read etc. He is at the age when he still wants to be with you so make the most of it while you can. If you think he is smart try experiments with him. Get two mice and one leave in the basement with a radio blasting 24/7 and have him keep one in his quiet room. Have him keep notes on the mices behavior etc..... Good luck.

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My son, age 11 also does not like to go to bed. He would stay up most of the night if we didn't insist on him sleeping. We also give him melatonin every night which helps get him to sleep. His neurologist suggested it to us, since he already had trouble sleeping and one of the side effects of one of some of the medications is insomnia. Good luck

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I use the melatonin with my son too. Although, we just started using Tenex for tics and Oppositional Defiance Disorder and it helps him to sleep. So I'm not using it right now. But it's a good one and it's natural. It's what your body already makes to help you fall asleep.

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My daughter is 11, when she was 8 I found out she was gifted and last year found out she has ADHD. Bed time is a challege, she is never ready or sleepy to go to bed. This is what I do, she will take a shower at 7 pm and she takes her timer with her. She only have 15 minutes for that then she goes to bed to read until 8 pm. At that time I pray with her and I turn all lights off. 20 minutes is all takes her to fall asleep. Now I have to confess not always work, but almost every night. Good luck!

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