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14 Feb 2008 @ 12:53 AM
iceburn Join Date: Wed 13th Feb 2008
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Please help me. I don't know how to deal with my ADD husband anymore...

I'm already at my wits end with my husband. My husband has been diagnosed with ADD before I met him but has neither taken medication nor sought help. I've never encountered ADD till I met him. We've known each other for 3 years and have been married a year and we have a 3 month old son.

I've put up with a lot of things. When I say a lot of things, I mean a lot.

When we started dating, you see I am a neatfreak and his messy nature really annoyed me. But I just let that slide and just cleaned up. He then started expecting me to clean up, organize his clothes, organize his bills and I'm even his secretary when he tried his hand at running his own business. My husband, aside from ADD has dyslexia and he can't spell for all his worth.

My husband orders me around like I am his maid. He gets mad when he loses some thing he misplaced and blames me for it for not keeping track of the things he's misplaced. I mean how should I know where he placed that? For instance, he misplaced his eyeglasses and has been on my case for the last few weeks about it. And if I forget something that he ordered me to do, he picks a fight.

He used to have a gambling problem. It became so bad that he lost all his finances and had to depend on me for finances. At least now, he's stopped gambling.

He's an impulsive spender. He says he wants to save but the moment he sees something, he wants, he just goes out and gets it without even thinking about it.

Sometimes he picks fights out of the blue by being so critical of me. From the way I walk, the way I eat, the way I dress. He constantly criticizes. When I talk about my day, he asks me to keep quiet because my voice annoys him and he talks and talks and talks about his day.

Yet whenever I don't pay attention to him or when I am off doing something else, he makes a pest out of himself. Yet if I pay attention to him or request for intimacy, like I give him a hug, he pushes me away. But when he demands affection and intimacy, I'm obligated to give it, otherwise he stalks out, deeply hurt.

Things started to spiral to an even worst situation when we left the US. I got pregnant accidentally (we were already married) and he kept blaming me for having a baby. He soon kept saying, he's going to leave once the baby is born. He stressed me so much during my pregnancy that I almost gave birth prematurely.

Now he's been telling me how he doesn't love me anymore and that he's only staying for our son. That he loves our son very much. Yet he doesn't talk to our son or pick up or play with our son. He's also competing with our son for my attention. When he notices I am paying more attention to our son, he either makes a pest out of himself or goes ballistic and picks a fight with me. For instance, I am breastfeeding our son, he would tell me, put him down already, you haven't prepared my clothes, and I need them now. Or he pulls our son away from my breast in the middle of feeding just out on a whim. I yelled at him for trying to compete with our son to which he stalked off and disappeared for a day.

And yes, the disappearing act. Whenever he gets mad about our relationship, he tells me that it's over and leaves. He's already left me so many times yet he keeps coming back. He goes of disappearing one or 2 days, while telling me where he's headed off to despite adamantly declaring it's over between us. After which he comes back he tells me he can't be without me and how much he needs me etc. etc. Yet whenever I am around, he acts like he can't stand me. Always wanting me to get away from him. But then he says even though he doesn't love me, he tells me he cares for me. He's always so sure that it's over but then he comes back all the time. And like an idiot, I just keep taking him back because I want to save this marriage and I don't want our son to grow up in a broken family.

At times when I am at my wit's end, I tell him to go leave and when he does leave, don't come back anymore. To which he does go but then comes back. Then he makes a big drama of wanting to be a father to our son etc. etc.

And then he says sorry for not being a good husband that I'll be better off with someone who will love me the way I deserve to be loved.

I'm really on the verge of divorcing him. I do love him a lot but I can't take it anymore, there's just so much I can put up with. I've forgiven him so many times and still he treats me like crap. Is there any help for my husband? When he's not picking fights, he's actually a very sweet and fun guy to be with.

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14 Feb 2008 @ 12:14 PM Reply # 1
grandma Join Date: Thu 14th Feb 2008
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You need professional help

I'm sorry to say this, but the symptoms that you are describing are not all from ADHD, there is more to it, and i feel for you , I have a daughter that suffers the exact symptoms as your husband, don't get me wrong she is a sweatheart, but sometimes she can drive anyone to the extreme , at times she is very abusive, and defiant with everyone she really loves, she suffers impulsive disorder, also ODD, which is oppositional defiant disorder, also depression, and ADHD, all these things really required medical treatment, and DBT, developmental behavioral therapy, without these treatments is very difficult, you might also need to go to counseling as a couple, it seems that your husband is very much wrapped in his own thoughts and very angry, i wish that you'll find the help that you need, i;m also going throug a lot, with my daughter because she also have mayor medical problems, so i'm raising my three grandkids 15, 8, and 5, two boys and a girl, and my daughter, and my grandkids also have ADHD, and the second boy has both ADHD/ODD. , but please hang in there, get some help, i'll promise you with all these treatments, things will get better for you, don't give up, just be strong and be there for him, but please get help immediately. i like to hear from you again, chefzanu@aol.com

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14 Feb 2008 @ 1:59 PM Reply # 2
Amy Alison Join Date: Thu 10th Jan 2008
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IceBurn

Hi IceBurn,

I'm sorry to hear of the hellish situation you're living in now--I can relate to much of it, and I know it must be extremely hurtful and confusing for you to try to even comprehend what he's doing. He may have ADD which does affect his behavior/personality to some degree, but the REAL issue I see is that he is being downright ABUSIVE to you! There is absolutely NO excuse for being abusive to another person, which he is clearly doing. That is not a symptom of ADD, so please don't feel you need to overlook his extremely hurtful and disrespectful behavior as a "symptom" of ADD--it sounds like he's using his ADD diagnosis as an excuse to emotionally & verbally abuse you. He sounds like a very selfish, self-absorbed, angry person. If that's true, please consider some thoughts:

A person in that mentality--very immature, emotionally--does not take responsibility for himself, and looks for any way to pass any of his less-than-perfect issues as someone else's fault. He wants what he wants when he wants it, and to hell with what anyone else wants or needs--others' needs are an inconvenience to him, because his focus is almost entirely on himself.

The person often has an unrealistic view of himself, basically an idealized image he either wants to be or actually thinks he is...but it doesn't really match reality. Any mistake or flaw he makes(any everyday mistake we ALL do sometimes, just being human beings) he considers to be evidence that he, himself, is an awful person. He'd feel threatened that this "awful person" image is totally different from his "ideal" image of himself, so feels an overwhelming need to convince himself and others that the mistake is someone else's fault. It can't be HIS fault, because that would make him an awufl person, so it HAS to be YOUR fault, basically. The person often feels entitled to think of his wife as just an extension of himself, maybe like a posession. What she feels, her pain, her needs, etc, don't REALLY matter, because it's all about him and what he thinks will help him feel better about himself!

The abusive man wants to keep the woman with him, so in between being hurtful and disprespectful to her, he'll often be really sweet, do nice things, apologize, and basically do whatever he thinks will convince the woman to forgive him and want to stay with him. He's not critical, nasty, demanding, and hurtful ALL the time, or else he knows the woman would leave him, and he wouldn't have her to blame for his problems, be resonsible for taking care of all his needs, or just to be there for him to keep having a false sense of "power" over her in order to bolster up his ego and his true low self-esteem.

I'm familiar with this kind of man, because I realized several months ago that my own husband has been emotionally & verbally abusive to me for years...I just never even knew it was abuse, sadly. Now I'm learning how to respond to his behavior and how to protect myself from it. I am insisting that he get whatever help he needs to heal from his own personal issues, and I'll stand by him and be supportive of him--IF he actually takes responsibility for doing that. I insist that the emotional/verbal abuse has to stop, or I will not stay and allow myself to be subject to his hurtful/disrespectful behavior. I'm TRYING to be patient and trust God to work in his heart, but at this point I don't know which way it is ultimately going to go. It is a pretty confusing situation, with many conflicting feelings toward him, and I must admit that sometimes I fall back into a very impatient mindset and need to step back and try REALLY HARD to be patient and give God time to work with him.

If you think the situation I described sounds familiar, I'd strongly encourage you to contact a domestic violence organization to get you set up with knowledge and resources, and counseling for yourself. A lot of them are free and confidential, so he'd never know you were seeking help or support. Just having someone to talk to could help so much. Do you find yourself wondering if you're starting to go crazy? That's very common for a person who has been emotionally abused to doubt her own sanity and confidence in herself.

Please forgive me if I was way off on my perception of your situation. A lot of what you mentioned sounded very familiar to me, and in the case that your situation is even remotely similar, the stuff I said above is information I would have really wanted someone to share with me as I was starting to realize what was going on with my husband.

I hope you're able to find the info/help you're seeking to help your family, and that you're able to work things out well. Please feel free to send me a private message if you want to talk about anything, or just someone to listen and support you.

Amy

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14 Feb 2008 @ 2:14 PM Reply # 3
Elaine20 Join Date: Sat 10th Nov 2007
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ADD husband

Ice Burn,

I'm sorry for what you are going through. I can relate to much of what you are saying because my husband had similar symptoms. We were married for 23 years before I found out there was a name for it. That was three and a half years ago. And although my husband also has ADHD, what you are describing is not all ADD behavior. Losing one's glasses is part of ADHD, criticizing and blaming you is not the ADHD. The push and pull behavior of wanting to be close and then not, the leaving you and then wanting your attention, etc. is classic behavior for something known as the borderline personality disorder or BPD for short. One book on the disorder is called, "I Hate You, Don't Leave Me". You can see how the title is an apt description of what he does to you.

There is so much I could tell you about it. Please feel free to send me a personal message or email me at elaine5687@comcast.net. A couple of resources you will want to check out---the book, "Stop Walking on Eggshells" by Randi Kruger and Paul Mason, which will sound like a description of your life. When my daughter picked up the book and showed it to me three and a half years ago, I read the back cover and we both said it described my husband (her father) perfectly. Barnes and Noble carries it as should any major book store and of course it is available online.

Secondly, you will want to check out the largest online support group for "nons", a term for those who are involved in some way with someone who has BPD. You will read a lot of stories similar to yours. The website is www.bpdfamily.com For the most up-to-date and best help available go to www.biologicalunhappiness.com This doctor is light years ahead of others in the treatment of this disorder . Dr. Leland Heller, who runs this site, is the same doctor who diagnosed and treated my husband. He has had phenomenal success in treating those with this disorder, many of whom were previously told their situation was hopeless. That is why he has had patients come to see him from more than 40 different states and 15 countries, from as far away as Australia. He is that good. And that is an understatement. He's brilliant, knowledgable, compassionate, inspiring and upbeat and has a deep passion for helping those with BPD. Many doctors and psychologists will refuse to treat these patients.

DBT treatment, which stands for dialectical behavioral therapy (I think that is what grandma was referring to), is a type of therapy that is specifically geared towards helping those with the disorder. It is helpful, but in my opinion it is overrated. It does help reduce suicidal behavior and self-mutilation for those who have those tendencies but by itself, is not enough.

There are 9 criteria for the disorder and one has to have at least 5 of the criteria to be diagnosed. Many times patients with this disorder are misdiagnosed if they are diagnosed at all. Too many psychologists have a stereotypical view of the disorder that only females who cut themselves have it. The disorder is one of emotional instability, frequent mood swings that can change in an instant, unpredictable behavior and moods, low self-esteem that is sometimes masked by an arrogant attitude, impulsive behavior that is usually self-destructive (includes substance abuse, gambling, excessive spending, risky behavior, sexual promiscuity, as some examples), fear of abandonment, uncontrollable anger or raging, although some take out their anger on themselves through cutting or other forms of self-mutilation, intense and unstable relationships with others and suicidal thoughts or attempts. It is also referred to as a disorder of intimacy and one of emotional dysregulation. They have a tendency to blame others for their problems, misinterpret words or actions by others, accusing those they love with saying or doing something they never said or did.

There is a definite correlation with ADHD and BPD, although there has not been a lot of research done on it. Estimates range from 25% to 50% of those with BPD also have ADHD. My husband has both although for years he was only diagnosed with depression and a temper problem.

I could go on but I'll stop for now. One additional thing though. Without proper treatment, your husband will not change. It will most likely get worse with time. although there may be periods of relative peace for some (they are usually at their best when they first fall in love). Many of these individuals, though not all, do not think there is anything wrong with them and will therefore refuse to get help.

But this behavior is definitely not from the ADHD, although there is some overlapping of symptoms. I hope I was able to be of some help. I'm here if you want to share or ask me any questions about BPD. Again, I am sorry for what you are going through. I know it has been very difficult for you and confusing as well.

You'll be in my thoughts and prayers,

Elaine

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15 Feb 2008 @ 10:03 PM Reply # 4
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The other side

I am not like your husband, but it took years to get my attention. In my case we lost a pregnancy and my wife shut down for a while. I still don't know what is going to happen, but we started in therapy together and found out about my ADD and that we don't communicate well. It may take you actually considering leaving before he gets it. I don't recommend that as a tactic, but unless he is motivated to get help he may be unable to sort it out. When the pupil is ready, the teacher appears.

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13 Mar 2008 @ 3:41 PM Reply # 5
scatterbrained2 Join Date: Thu 13th Mar 2008
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Hmmm...

I can understand some of what's going on. My hubby and I are both ADD, but I agree with the previous posts: this is not just ADD and you guys need professional help. I would suggest taking action asap; you don't need to be this stressed and upset, and your son doesn't need to be either. You don't want your son growing up witnessing and possibly emulating this type of behavior. All the best. God Bless you.

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14 Mar 2008 @ 3:19 PM Reply # 6
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My story (and some advice) of how to deal with an ADD husband

Oh honey, I'm so sorry about what you're going through! Hang in there, you're not alone. I am going through something similar, if that gives you any comfort. My story: my husband and I are Christians. I met him through his mother at church. I was a widow and I met my first husband the same way. We married after only a short time of dating (also like my first husband). Before we married, my husband was honest with me about his short-comings. He told me he had a sex addiction (watching porno videos & wanting sex daily) in addition to being diagnosed with anxiety & depression (taking Lexapro). In the beginning, things were fine, but right about the time I got pregnant (with the son he desperately wanted to continue his family name) his words & behavior became so illogical. It wasn't just me, his family, friends & co-workers were noticing it too. So our problems began. We went to a Christian counselor. Great man, but unfortunately didn't identify the adult ADD nor had the credentials to prescribe meds. So my husband starts changing jobs and then on a whim, he wants us to move from Orlando to Tallahassee. Our problems continue. We find another counselor and she makes the adult ADD diagnosis (one major positive) and prescribes Adderall XR. Unfortunately the counselor has a rare illness and is having to close the practice. He's just been given a referral to yet another counselor, but I wish we could find an actual ADD coach. Does your husband see the value of going to a counselor? I pray that he does and will seek medical attention. My husband realizes he's ill and needs help, but he's unable to understand all the research & literature I've gathered for him about how his illness is responsible for our marriage troubles. He rarely goes to church anymore. He moved out, and then a few weeks later moved back in. He says nothing to me in terms of love, but he wants to continue our intimate relations. He does spend a lot of time with our son and my twin daughters. He refuses or pushes me away when I ask for a back rub or try to hug or tickle him. And ever since he's been taking the Adderall, he's been having these anger outbursts (which I'm now documenting). I believe that both your husband and mine are also suffering from bi-polar disorder in addition to their ADD. My husband says he's going to divorce me as soon as school gets out (I'm a teacher). He says he has to because we don't agree on everything and because we think differently (ridiculous I know). He blames me for basically all his problems. I really do love my husband. I'm willing to wait patiently and encourage him while he heals. God and my support system of family & friends is what's getting me through this. I hope you have support too. You may e-mail me whenever at: stephanie.scholer@jcsb.org. We love our husbands and we're definitely affected by their pain, but we have to take care of ourselves and our children first. Try exercising to work out some of your frustrations. Take your baby to the park and swing on the swing with him. Go for a mommy/baby picnic. Get a massage, manicure or pedicure. Get a babysitter and go with some girlfriends out to eat, to the mall or to a movie. Although we have this stressful mess to deal with, your life and your baby's still goes on. Try to live it as normally as possible. I will be praying for you, girl.

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20 Mar 2008 @ 7:38 PM Reply # 7
al Join Date: Thu 20th Mar 2008
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A husband with ADD/ADHD ...

Ice Burn,

I think ADD/ADHD does not explain all this.

I’ve been recently diagnosed, but - for what it could count – I can guarantee that being an ADD/ADHD person does not necessarily mean all the things you mentioned about your husband. And I assume that what you say is what happens in real life (i.e., that you do not underestimate things that you do and actually might even contribute to, directly or indirectly, his way of behaving).

That said, I strongly suggest that you both go get support, better if you do that together. If this is non possible, and if you choose not to divorce, be prepared to help him, since he does not seem to be willing to do that on his own.

I’ve been lucky enough to understand that awareness is very, very important to cope with my disorder. I don’t know if/when I’ll be different from what I’ve been my all life, but at least I’m much more aware of what goes on in my mind. And this helps. A lot.

Believe me, if you can help him in becoming more just aware of what he is doing or saying, a lot of work is done. This is not easy at all. But let me give you a very simple example, just to start off: do not fight and blame each other, and focus on what you feel, and what he feels. Don’t argue with sentences like “you did this, you did that” but rather “I felt this, how did you feel?”. Try to control your anger and frustration, and speak a language he can understand. Find a way to talk to him about yourself WITHOUT mentioning him, and see if he does the same. Give him the time he needs to react, and think, and be aware.

--al

PS sorry for my english

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10 Apr 2008 @ 1:27 PM Reply # 8
Wishful Spirit Join Date: Thu 10th Apr 2008
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Character Issues vrs ADD Issues

I agree with other posters that not all the things you listed about your husband are directly related to ADD. While we do tend to be messy and disorganized, expecting someone else to run our lives or being verbally abusive is a character issue, not an ADD issue. I recommend counseling. If he won't go, go without him. A professional can help you sort out the ways in which your behavior contributes to the problem (no marriage issue is ever entirely one person's fault), and how you can respond differently, perhaps bringing change. I would also highly recommend the book Boundaries in Marriage by psychologists Cloud and Townsend.

In the meantime, how do you respond to your husband's behavior? Do you blow up or nag? Or do you set clear boundaries on what you will do if he does X or Y? For example: "Honey, I want to apologize for nagging you to put things away. I know it isn't easy to live with someone who is constantly on your case, and I'd like you to let me know if I slip back into that behavior. I really don't want to be a shrew and I need your help to overcome the habit of nagging I've fallen into. Also, there's another behavior of mine I'm going to change. I've gotten into the habit of going and finding your stuff for you if you loose it. I need to apologize for that, too, because my doing it for you won't help you learn to be more organized. If you'd like me to help you learn organizational skills, I'd love to help you find the resources you need, but if you misplace something, you'll have to locate it yourself."

My parents did this with me when I was young. They gave me ideas about how to remember to get my lunch when I was leaving for school (like putting a spoon in my shoe every night), but if I forgot my lunch anyway, I'd get to go hungry that day. They would not bring it to me.

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12 Apr 2008 @ 11:16 AM Reply # 9
iceburn Join Date: Wed 13th Feb 2008
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update

Thank you for the advice everyone. Out of the blue, my husband said he wanted to see a psychiatrist. This greatly surprised me. He tole me he's realized that every time he's mad at me, he really believes its over and only when I am not around, that's when he misses me. He said he needs help. i am very glad at this development and we are currently looking around for psychiatrists in this country who specialize in this. We have gotten some referrals and have scheduled to see them.

Things seem to have gotten better after my husband's realization. Little by little he's no longer being demanding and isn't picking fights. He's actually planning the future now. And is more caring to our little boy. I don't know what realization he's had but I'm glad it has happened. I believe our marriage is going to get better. i just hope this isn't a temporary phase he is going through.

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19 Apr 2008 @ 11:22 PM Reply # 10
Sooz Join Date: Tue 13th Nov 2007
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Watch your back

Iceburn,

I'm glad that things are looking up, but please don't be too quick to let down your guard with your husband. Mine did the same thing, and once he saw that the threat was over, at least for the moment, he went back to his old behaviors.

I've read the other posts here, and I have a different take on what's going on with your husband. First, Borderline Personality Disorder, is very serious and not very common. I would suggest that you google Narcissistic husband, or find Sam Vaknin's blog on Amazon.com and see if the descriptions match what you've been experiencing with your husband -- it was very eye-opening for me. Narcissistic Personality Disorder.

My husband, too, was the one who suggested his own therapy. He's been in therapy for the better part of 8 years now, and he's on his 4th therapist. Usually, they're just not doing things the way he wants. This is classic narcissistic behavior. It's not his fault -- he's "painfully honest" and his therapists let him down. We started couples therapy also, and for the longest time he's was all about getting the therapists (yes, we've had multiples here, too -- we're on our third) to just get me to stop getting mad at him. He insisted that all the problems in our marriage boiled down to my temper -- which, by the way, did NOT exist before I knew him! He masterfully managed to manipulate two trained professionals into forcing me to sit through session that were all about what was wrong with me. We actually had one therapist who asked him to describe all of my physical attributes that he found unattractive -- let me tell you, not a fun discussion to have to sit through.

Well, we finally found a therapist he couldn't manipulate and she insisted that he get off of making me the "identified patient" -- i.e. he had to stop insisting that fixing me would fix everything.

Basically, narcissism is all about hiding shame -- a deep, abiding shame that's been with you since childhood. You create this "false self" to hide what you perceive to be your inadequacies and everyone and everything in your life needs to match up with this false self. Invariably, the spouse is never good enough and the children are the narcissists hope for redemption -- not at first, because they do take attention away from the narcissist. But, as they become little people, the narcissist sees that the child can become everything that they are not. So, they set about (unconsciously) molding their child in their (false) self-concept. Woe the poor child who doesn't end up living up to the narcissist's vision! They end up being treated to the same shame-inducing criticisms that the narcissist would heap on themselves, if they had the courage.

Please be careful -- your husband's hiding and avoiding treatment for his disability sounds like he carries shame about it. Think of it, he's probably a very smart man who probably was seen as being as smart as he really was because of a disability. Maybe he was just called lazy. I'm the diagnosed ADDer in our house, and I can tell you that it hurt even just to be told that I was not living up to my "potential". I think that's much harder for boys to hear those negative meassges than it is for girls. So, feel for your husband's pain, understand it. But, do protect yourself from how he copes with it.

None of his problems are your fault. You must not let him convince you otherwise. You must not let him convince you that you are inadequate in any way -- he himself feels inadequate on some level but can't deal with that so he needs to dump it off on someone else, most likely the person he's closest to. Learn to set emotional boundaries. Learn as much as you can about what you might be dealing with. Messiness and disorganization is ADD and something you can deal with, but treating you badly and blaming you for everything that's wrong in his life is narcisstic and potentially dangerous for you.

I'm not going to say leave him, because I haven't left my husband. But, I've made no bones about the fact that the marriage must be a two-way street, and that I must get my needs met in the relationship, as well. Narcissists are not good about being interested in what other people need. In fact, if they give you anything it is out of a need that they have, it's not really a selfless act. Don't expect him to be caring and concerned about your probelms -- he doesn't have the ability. Narcissists can't emapthize with other people because it causes them too much pain.

Oh, and never tell him that he's a narcissist! You want to see instantaneous, out-of-control rage?!

My husband does not seem to have a full-blown version of the disorder, but the way I would describe it is that he has a narcissistic response when he finds himself in a situation that causes him discomfort or makes him feel threatened. He did do a number on my sense of self-esteem, and for a long time I bought into it because I was the one with the diagnosis. Meanwhile, he is so much more distractible than me! I end up picking up garbage from the floor that he absent-mindedly dropped, I'm constantly called in on rescue missions because he's misplaced something. But, I've also been repeatedly reminded over the years, in subtle and not-so-subtle ways, that I am dispensible. Totally dispensible, until I start talking about leaving the relationship. Then, he grabs on and vows to work on things and make everything work, and talks about not wanting to lose his family . This lasts for, well, it varies, but basically it lasts as long as it takes for me to stop saying I want to end the marriage. It's a horrible rollercoaster ride, and I wouldn't recommend it to anyone.

HOWEVER, if you are committed to staying in your marriage, I do recommend that you keep your eyes open -- don't assume anything has changed until you see longterm, ongoing proof of it. Read as much as you can on narcissism and how to protect yourself. Make sure you have an excellent, dependable, non-judgemental support system. And, always remember to have faith in yourself and what you're worth. Don't ever give that over to him.

Good luck and God speed.

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24 Apr 2008 @ 12:13 PM Reply # 11
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Set Your Priorities and Get Help

Iceburn, Talk about jumping into the fire. Wow! You're be hit from all sides! My heart goes out to you. 1. Do something nice for yourself. Buy yourself a cup of coffee or a bouquet of flowers. Always try to do something for you. (It's easy to get caught up in the obession of making it all work and trying to fix everything.)

2. Your baby is your priority. You matter. You are important. Your baby needs YOU. That is #1. You must ensure a safe and healthy environment for your baby (and yourself, as well.)

3. Something living within an ADD relationship is hell. I always say, "the consistency of the inconsistency" The following comments are solely based on my experience with my family's and my husband's ADD. I believe, depending on the level of ADD, one can have a little ADD, medium ADD or a lot of ADD, that it's extremely difficult for the ADD to understand themselves and/or their decisions, impulsive behavior and why they hurt everyone. Now that you have a baby, you should realize that for the most part you can't count on your husband whether it's for the small stuff, do the dishes, or for something big. Go two ways. 1 Make decisions based on the safety and security of you and your baby. 2. Look for an ADD support group. You must do this! Then you might not feel so alone. Also, get books and try to find an ADD specialist for your understanding and for your husband. You may not have to do anything drastic, yet. Just take small steps so that you can see changes for you and the baby. I have found that setting BOUNDARIES is really important on anything from what should be the daily routine to how the two of you argue. I have established boundaries with my children and with my husband. While daily life can still be hard, it's at least manageable and boundaries and structure give me a sense of security from all of the changes and spurts of behavior.

4. ADD is genetic. Your baby has a good chance of having ADD. While it can be diagnosed at a young age,4, 5, 6, etc., it may not be apparent before a child is 9 or 10 years old. The earlier in life that you and your baby has help, ADD therapist, etc. the better life your baby will have. Find a therapist and a support group that works for you. The decisions you make for your baby early on can have an incredibly profound affect later in life. My two sons have been on meds for 4 years and we go to therapy once a month. For them this has been the BEST thing that I could have done. Their school grades are better than they would have been, they KNOW that they can make through college, I think that they understand their situation better, their strengths and limitiations. If I had not made decisions on their behalf, I can only guess where they would be now. I am sure my one son would be flunking school. (I observe some of my sons' friends, a few I am willing to bet have ADD. They have no one helping them. Their grades aren't great, they're missing a lot of school, aren't getting enough sleep, and just go from one impulsive thought to the next. It's sad sometimes to think that with some meds and therapy how different their lives could be.) Think about it, what if someone had helped your husband when he was a boy, he would be a different person today. Unfortunately so many generations just didn't know.

Read, learn, think, pray, decide and act. God bless you. Rosemary

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26 Apr 2008 @ 2:05 PM Reply # 12
shanel Join Date: Sat 26th Apr 2008
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You have already been given good advice.

I read through a lot of the responses and the advicce people offered you. There isn't really anything that I can add that hasn't been said already.

So the above being said, I'll just say this. I have been diagnosed with severe AD/HD, my affliction is so extreme that I am disabled. Right now I am in the begining stages of my rehabilitation process and am recovering from the devestation left in the wake of AD/HD. I have never, ever, treated my wife like that, NEVER! Judging from the descriptions of abusive treatment you're receiving from your husband, I can say with all honesty he has a lot more problems than just neurological ones. It sounds like to me your husband is suffering from an acute case called _ _ _ HOLE disorder. I do not know of anything that can treat _ _ _ HOLE disorder.

AD/HD is no execuse to treat people like that. If I am feeling depressed, or if I am feeling irritable, my wife is the 1st person I look to for love and support. I've never, ever, talked down to her, or verablly abused her. I've always treated my wife with dignity, respect, and love that she deserves. I constantly inform her that I think she is beautiful, sexy, and how much I love her. She is my pillar of support.

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28 Apr 2008 @ 3:59 PM Reply # 13
Rehorakthy Join Date: Mon 28th Apr 2008
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PLEASE READ: Another perpective from an ADHD male

Hi Iceburn,

I am really sorry to hear about what you are going through. I agree with the others. There is NO excuse for the abuse! However, there might be an explanation.

I have known I was ADHD since I was in my early 20s. I am now 37. I went on meds when I was 29/30, and I thought that would be the end of it. But, as I got older, my symptoms progressed. By the time I was 35 I knew my life wasn't working, and I couldn't figure out why. I was in therapy and seeing a psychiatrist, but they were all focused on treating my depression and overlooked the increasingly present symptoms of my ADHD. Soon, I was being medicated for severe depression and ADHD, but things continued to get worse.

To make a long story short, the more I got depressed the more I tried to self medicate with alcohol, and became chemically dependent (an alcoholic). I knew something was wrong, but no one could tell me what it was. I became so desperate that I considered suicide. I was at my wits end when a friend convinced me to get into rehab a little over two months ago, and by a strange twist of circumstances, I wound up on a website that discussed the symptoms of adult ADHD. I was FLOORED!!! All of a sudden, I had answers and explanations. I met with my Drs and the Drs at the clinic and was retested. Sit down for this. At the time I was taking 300mg of Wellbutrin and 54mg of Concerta everyday. Even on the meds, I tested off the charts. My Drs bumped me up to 72mg of Concerta for a while, but I eventually switched. Now, I am the Wellbutrin, 30mg of Adderall XL, and I am getting some coaching. Although I initially went on the Wellbutrin for depression, I now have to stay on it because it works in combination with Adderall to address the majority of my symptoms.

But I wanted to share my story with you because even though I was aware of my diagnosis, was being medicated, and was in therapy, I still had untreated symptoms that wreaked havoc on my life. I am a ferociously independent person, and I refused to think that I was incapable of fixing whatever was wrong with me. As an earlier poster said, it's all about character right? If I didn't have enough character and determination to fix this, especially with the help of my Drs, then maybe I didn't deserve to live. And still, no matter how hard I tried, regardless the myriad new techniques I adopted, I failed over and over again. Then, the people who saw my failings as a "character" issue started to judge me. And I drank. The more they didn’t see the good person inside me trying to get out, the more I hated myself for failing. The more I hated myself the more I drank.

The bottom line is that you DO NOT DESERVE TO BE ABUSED!!!!! No one does! Nothing I have said or am about to say changes that. If your husband is in fact in a situation similar to mine, you need to take care of yourself until he gets the help he needs.

When my untreated symptoms were at their worst, I turned my back on all my values. I treated people horribly. I lied and constantly abandoned all of my responsibilities. I lost jobs and destroyed relationships, and other posters are correct. It was not all caused by my ADHD. I take full responsibility for all of my actions ... to the extent that I was aware of them. But now I have confirmation that something was in fact wrong with me. I wasn't failing because I lacked character or was a horrible or immature person. I was failing because I had no idea how bad my ADHD symptoms had become. As the failures piled up, I became more angry and despondent. I tried to hide my "character flaws" by becoming increasingly manipulative, but I wasn't fooling anyone. The anger and manipulative behavior weren’t caused by my ADHD. They were caused by me hating myself because I could not figure out why I kept screwing things up.

I did my absolute, God's honest best and fell short every time. If your husband is going through something similar, I know first hand how it can destroy a person's soul. I know I am a good person, but my inability to access that part of myself almost killed me. IT IS NOT AN EXCUSE TO ABUSE YOU!!!! YOU HAVE TO MAKE SURE YOU AND YOUR SON ARE SAFE!!! I cannot emphasize that enough. YOUR HUSBAND'S PROBLEMS ARE HIS TO FIX!!! But know that there might be a way out of your situation. I am NOT saying that your husband is severely ADHD. He could be bipolar. I don't know. But what I do know is that my life has done a total 180 degree turn. I am properly medicated. I have been sober for nearly 3 months and have no desire to drink. I do not get depressed as often, and when I do, I am able to pull myself out of it more quickly. I have repaired relationships with my friends and family. And the most important thing is that I can now access the good person I always knew I was capable of being.

So, I will pray for you and your family. I want you to find in your life, the same level of peace I have found in mine. And maybe your husband will read my story and something will resonate with him. Maybe it will speak to him in a way that resonates and motivates him to get his life back on track before he loses you and his son--if it's not too late already. Whatever happens, you deserve to be loved and treated with dignity and respect.

Be safe and God bless! EOJ

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23 May 2008 @ 10:54 PM Reply # 14
ADD RN Join Date: Wed 21st Nov 2007
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I'm sorry to tell you this is not ADHD or ADD Behavior

The post you made upsets me very much because I do not see theis as part of ADHD behavior ; but instead behavior of an demostic abuser. The reason I say this is because of the research I did for school and recommend check into one of those sites they have. A domestic abuser does not have to hit to abuse you. And frankly everything you describe is an abuser at work. They tend to place blame on you for everything and will continue this behavior until they find the next victim. Frankly I don't see this marriage working out ; and if you are staying for your son then It would really better to leave. Remember children identify with the same sex parent and will learn this behavior is okay . I am the ADHD sposuse in this family ; and every maarriage can have their problems; but they are worked out without belittleting or making the other person feel unloved or useless. I am so sorry to tell you that this behavior will only get worse and I am sorry to day this man really isn't concerned that his behavior is upsetting to you. I hope you all the best. Please go on the domestic abuser sites and see what Symptoms are truly domestic abuse and what is ADHD. We may have difficult time relating to our spouses and have a hard time being organized. The bottom line we are not malious; and we are the ones who have the issuse of not paying attention or are organized and tend to take on the blame for any problems we may be having not blaming the other person. Most ADD/ADHD people will do anything to keep their marriage and try to make their way through life. Sure we may have some risky behavior but it is for our "high " not to cause hurt to anyone especially someone we love.

What ever you decide it must be for the mental health of yourself and child

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26 May 2008 @ 9:09 PM Reply # 15
ADD RN Join Date: Wed 21st Nov 2007
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If any person is in a abusive realtionship

If for any reason you think you fre in abusive relationship you are. Every marriage has difficulitiesbut some of the behaviour oI have read in these post really distrub me because I recognize the sign and symptoms of domestic abuse.,and if you have children in these homes they need to be pulled out of them before they are scared for life and continue the chain of abuse.It not alright for any individule (Male or Female) to belittle, cuss, put down, embarrass the one person they swore to love and honor use abuse the other finanaces , hit physically push or become ruff during sex or demanding sex is domestor abuser.They will abuse, say they are sorry , give period of honeymoon , just to fall back in to the abuse If they push they will hit etc. It nevere get better the symptoms always get worse,. PLease do not mix up SIGNS AND SYMPTOMS of Domestic abuse as A symptom Of ADHD, which is risky and many times very exciting personalities In my experience being the ADHDer I rarely yell , fight because most of the time i feel resposnsible not paying a bill; and i keep my owm bank account .

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