hi there , we have change our sons meds a few times now and found that the dex were the best for his concentration etc but as for all the anger , he still has that and i to get called meanest mum , you sux, i hate you's, ya big meaney etc and to am sick of it aswell but im currently looking into a ADHD meditation /hypnotheropy cd that he will listen to at night still waiting for it to arrive in mail but im hopeing that this will help sorry not to shed any light on your situation but takecare be strong and good luck!!

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My son was taking Adderall XR 15 mg and he got really nasty and moody with this medicine. If you do some research you will see that it is a side effect. He now takes Concerta 54mg which works great for him, plus he takes a mood stabilizer.

After you give your sons the medicine, leave the area where they are and go do something else. I usually wake up, give him the medicine, then go take a shower and get dressed. By the time I am done, he is somewhat calmed down. If I don't leave the area, I get stressed out and explode, which makes him irritate me more on purpose.

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danni5 said: ANYONE with experience, even with one 10 year old boy. I am going out of my mind. My boys are currently on 10 mg. of Adderall XR a day. I give it to them at 7:30 a.m. Tell me what you think of Adderall. Before and after the medication is really rough for me. Maybe I need to toughen up a bit, but I am tired of being called a "jerk", "evil", "the meanest mother in the world". The anger is unbelievable. Has anyone been through this and switched medications to something better. We tried Metadate before this too that was not good either. They have no problems in school with behavior. HELP!!

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I have twins (boy/girl) that just turned 17. Although I think they both have ADD, my son was only diagnosed last year and we have delt with the anger issue about taking the meds as well. My son actually says things like "you are trying to give me drugs!" I know what it is like to be "ganged up on" by your twins. I suggest giving them their medicine one at a time, meaning that they are not together when they take it. Twins are sooooo good at working together to push mom's buttons. Seperating them for discipline will work wonders, especially when as they get older. I can't hold my own against two 17 ap add debaters. The one thing you have going for you is that they are still young, so you can develop a habit and help them see the benefits of medicine before they have too strong of opinions against it. I need to pick up my younger son from school- but I'm sure people can help brainstorm ideas of how to help do that.... good luck....

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I experience the same thing in the AM and the PM with my 11 year old son. It is like a switch when his meds are working he is the most helpful and sweet kid, but without the meds the simpliest request seems to set him off.

We have used a relaxation CD form the Indigo Dream series which helped some. Physical activity seems to also take the edge off. He is in martial arts and does better on nights he has had class. A run around the fence of our half acre yard works in a pinch. We also limit TV and video games during non-medication time because he can't handle the adjustment when asked to stop or when he is interupted. We also try to limit requests such as homework, chores, etc. when the medication has worn off.

We did do a boaster dose of a second medication in the AM for awhile which helped him because it got in the system quickly while we waited for the time release to kick in. He is now walking to school in the AM so we haven't been needing the booster dose. In the evening, you can always go for an earlier bedtime. Hopes this helps.

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Hi there, I understand how difficult it can be when you believe you are doing the right thing and they don't get it. I have a 10 year old boy who I have decided to stop medicating and have instead chosen behavior modification and cutting sugar back. My opinion is that sugar is a huge contributing factor to the negative symptoms of ADHD. Every child has varying degrees of ADHD and I believe that it is up to us as Mom's (parents) to follow our intuitive knowing to guide us through these seemingly difficult times. You may want to ask the boys why they believe you are "evil" etc. The biggest question to them might be "What do you need from me right now?" They are old enough to know if the meds work for them or not. They have already begun using logic, reason, analyzing and decision making at this stage of their developement. I am not a licensed professional however, I am a Hypnotherapist, ADHD myself and mother of 2 with ADHD. Know your options (all of them) research, research, research. What is positive about ADHD! I have found in my practice these children and adults to be exceptionally bright. Most have an entrepreneurial spirit. Discover about who they are as individuals and what inspires them. They will tell you if you listen. They simply do not learn the conventional way. Being quiet can be difficult because when they receive inspiration they feel a tremendous urge to share. Love that in them. I hope this gives you some relief. Gina

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My 11 year old is on the Daytrana patch 30mg - which works great when he has it on! He has the angry outbursts when things upset him before and after school, and it's like we walk on eggshells not to upset him at these times. We've started putting the patch on at 6 am and removing it at 4 pm and about half the days he gets up in a decent mood. However, he has problems getting to sleep if we don't give him a dose of Benadryl about 6 in the evening, which makes the next morning horrible. So, all that to say, he's been on the patch for 3 1/2 years (he did the clinical trials) and overall it works great! We just put my 6 year old on it for ADD, and it seems to be helping him. Any suggestions though on addressing the anger issues? My belief is that's the impulsive part of ADHD but I just don't know how to deal with him -

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Hi,

I am having the same experience with my younger son. He is only 6 and he talks like he's 13. All the way to school he would just scream at me for whatever perceived offense was suffered. Anyway, I had great success with routine outbursts by creating an incentive program. I don't know what would work with boys your age, but this is what we did: While he was calm, I explained to him the problem and that it was unacceptable. I asked him if there was a special treat he would like in his lunch and he said "goldfish." So, I told him the exact requirements--when I say time to leave, you get on your coat and shoes, you go out the door and you walk to school saying only pleasant things. It has worked beautifully. When these things happen, you receive goldfish in your backpack. After 2 months, he seems in the routine of some degree of control.

Now, the weakness of this is that I can't figure out how to apply the same idea to non-routines . So, last night he blew about who knows what and said similar things to me along the lines of me being a terrible mother. I had no tool other than "I don't listen to that talk, go to your room and say those things. When you're ready to be respectful you may come down--and you must apologize and help me set the table." Well, that all happened, but I would like to find the same kind of trick to help him learn to control it to begin with! Well, anyway, there it is. One success, one sort-of-failure . . . I would LOVE to know if you come up with anything that works with boys your age as I imagine this will be a long-term struggle! Please report! Failures help to know about too since, as Thomas Edison said about the 100s of failures re the light bulb, "now we know what won't work." !!!

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I have a 10 year old son that was diagnosed with ADHD about 1 1/2 years ago. He has had behavioral, and anger issues from a very young age. In Kindergarten we went to a Doctor who thought he may be ODD. After years of seeing a Naturopathic physician, allergy testing, diet changes you name it we decided to go to a Psychologist to try medication. He is taking 36mg Concerta. It has made a huge difference, in his focus, grades family and peer relationships. He still has the anger issues at times, morninging being the worst however they have diminished considerably. The approach that we have is that he needs to accept that he has ADHD and to own the good parts and the bad. We talk through the anger as calmly as we can to figure out what the trigger was. Usually it is frustration over something small but then spirals out of control. We have drawn a temperature chart that looks like a thermometer that has 1-10 written on the side with words that describe what level of anger he is feeling. For instance #1 is Unhappy where #10 is explode. We put a sticky note with the date and why he was angry on it to track it and refer to it at the end of the month to discuss ways to improve for next month. This has helped him as well as our whole family. I truly feel that teaching him to be aware of his behaviors and anger and having him own his actions is what has made the difference.

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I have a 9 year old son who was diagnoses with ADD and OCD 3 years ago. We have tried all the meds that are out there. Adderall had a very negative side effect and made our son very depressed and angry. When he was on Adderall, my husband and I could never do anything right according to our son and he kept telling us that he wish he could just die. Once we switched meds he was fine. Concerta and the new patch seem to work the best because the medicine level goes up gradually and goes down gradually so children are able to deal with their body readjusting easier. My son uses Concerta because the patch gives him a rash but I have heard very possitive feedback from other parents.

You had said that "Maybe I need to toughen up a bit" but I think it is just the opposite. You might need to loose up a bit before they have their meds and after the meds wear off. I have learned that a lot of the actions my son does before he is on his meds and after they wear off are a bit out of his control. I have found that I have to give him a lot of kindly reminders in the morning and in the evenings find activities that he can handle. I have also taken the time to explain to him what it means for him to have ADD and what behavior I see that he does when he is not on meds. I have let my son be in on the process or finding solutions for how to handle things and giving him goals to work toward. It has taken a lot of time and a lot of patience on my part but by working together with my son he has matured so much and he is realizing how to handle and control his own behavior. I found that I can't just rely on the medicine to "fix" the issues but that the parents and the child has to work together.

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I understand all about the anger issues. My son has for many years now would yell and scream at me for being a mean mom. He would also bang on the walls and sometimes even put a hole in the wall. My husband is good at patching now. But I just tell him that means I am doing my job!! I think you would all agree that giving your child medicine everyday is hard but not having the medication is even worse. You might have seen the poem about mean moms outlining all the restrictions moms put on their children because it is for their benefit. Such as no TV on school nights, no sugar, no soda, no candy, no water on the floor from a bath, no PG13 movies because you are 12 etc. This is just one other thing we need to do for our child's benefit. When my son was 7 he was diagnosed and he started Ritalin. He started on Ritalin because you could separate the pills and add it to some food ( he could not swallow pills then). So I put it in ice cream. He was the only kid in the neighborhood that has a Mom who gives their child ice cream for breakfast. Now he is on Concerta (up to 72mg and now down to 36mg.) I have consulted with a psychiatrist whose specialty is medications and I also consulted with a MD who also has a practice in wholistic medicine. My son is now on 1,000 mg of fish oil among other supplements. Fish oil is one of the elelments that ADHD kids are deficient in. Being on this has helped his behavior. Not all the time but most of the time. You can find children's fish oil in wholistic grocery stores and whole foods etc with flavorings such as strawberries. I have also put him on the Feingold diet which gives you a breakdown of what foods have no preservitives that may give your child a reaction. My son told me then he was a kid and did not need to be on a diet. That was a struggle too. Growing up helps a lot , an outlet for all that energy helps and boys scouts helps with the social stuff. Good luck.

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My son was taking Adderall and the anger issues were extreme! He had "melt-downs" after school daily when his meds were wearing off. He is now taking Focalin and those issues have calmed considerably. It takes about 15 minutes before meds begin working, and that 15 minutes seems like hours. However, I haven't heard that I am evil, or the worst mom in a while. during the 15 minutes, I make sure that the tasks he is doing are written and posted for him and I just tell him to "check his list" vs. telling him all the things he should be doing. Since you have two angels, you might want to stagger the time you get them up and give their meds immediately. That way, you wouldn't have to deal the behavior of both of them at the same time.

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I have a 7 year old son who was diagnosed with ADHD 2 years ago when he began kindergarten, We went through many moral and ethical arguments before we made the decision to medicate. The final straw, was after i had picked up my son from kindergarten anfter his ninth suspension in the first nine weeks of kindergarten, and i frustradedly asked him why he couldn't behave. And in a very sad quiet voice he told me "Mom i dont know.

He and i talked alot about what his "Brain Vitamins" would be able to help him with and what he might feel like when he takes them. Even though it was my desicion as a parent, we approached it very positively. ADHD children are unusally bright and can understand alot of things that you wouldn't expect them too. And while my son may not have understood all of the details of what medicating means, he knew that he needed help to be able to maintain his behavior and focus. He understands now that he gets that help in the form of a "Brian Vitamin' every morning. Along with the aid of an amazing public school for gifted and special needs children, it will be the combination of medication, behavior therapy and constant structure that enables him to suceed.

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I have an adopted daughter who is 12 and was diagnosed with ADHD and ODD when she was 6. Since, she's been given almost all diagnoses under the sun mostly due to her hostility and poor peer relations. She has treated me terribly with the name calling, cusing, intimidation, and throwing things, holes in wall, etc. as many of you mentioned. We've tried all different kinds of medicene combinations, and various therapies which contridicted from one to another. It is the most discouraging feeling of helplessness when you do all you can and don't see results. She has been on Concerta since she was 6 and then added meds. None really made a difference. So we recently took her off all and are trying Adderall and she does seem better. We still have the anger issues and at times they are very intense. We are finding that often her anger is projected on us from whatever social or perceived issues/anxieties she is dealing with at school or within the neighborhood. She, like many ADHD children, are not mature enough to talk about feelings and often have poor esteem and fear talking about their problems because it only validates how bad they really feel about themselves. Although I can empathize, it is unacceptable to not hold her accountable and she needs the consequences. If something is important to these kids, it is amazing how much energy and focus and persistence they can put into it. It will only be when she realizes that she will lose something important to her will she begin to try to be respectful. I'm learning I cannot give her wiggle room or she'll take me for all it's worth. Kids, especially ADHD kids, need to know where the limits are. They need the structure. If they don't have it, they don't feel safe and will act out/become bossy/mean because they don't trust that you are in control. They are out of control and need to know you are in control. The problem I have is being consistent and not "reacting" to her hostility toward me. She can push my buttons and if I react, she no longer has to be accountable because I've become part of the problem. Find out what motiviates your boys. I ground for disrespect but if my daughter is showing respect she gets stars which takes away grounding and if she gets stars and has no grounding, she gets special privileges--increase allowance, Starbuck's hot chocolate, etc. When she feels she has something to lose, she begins to think about what she needs to do to earn freedoms. Granted, she's been grounded since we started, but she does take more notice and tries to calculate what and how she can remove those groundings. It also makes the outbursts her problem, not mine--because I can just say, she has a tally (3 tallies=grounding) so she has the warning without me reacting. She then needs to decide. I hope this helps. It has to be tough with twins. I know I'm at the end of my rope with the one:) Good luck, Colleen

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We started about a month ago putting our 5 year old son on medication. First we tried Ritalin which I liked but it was very difficult to get him to take it twice a day and his moods were up and down. When he’s coming off the medication he is EXTREAMLY hipper. We tried the Adderall XR this weekend. The 5mg. just doesn’t seem to be enough so we upped it to 10mg. that’s when we saw the temper. When I spoke to the doctor she said for us to try it for a week at the 5mg. I don’t understand why we need to keep trying it. If the medication doesn’t build up in your system then why continue it? We use the point chart. Our kids earn points for things and the loose points for things. During the week they can spend their points to watch tv, but first they have to have their homework done, eat dinner, and bath completed before they can spend their points. This is helping with reminding me to keep it positive. When my son looses points he gets very angry but I redirect him to how he can earn a point. We thought we were the only one’s going through the “I hate you, I’m running away, ect”. I try to sit down and tell him not to use those words but that maybe he could use “I’m mad, I’m upset that I’m not getting my way”. This helps at times. It’s so hard and what works one day doesn’t always work the next. Sometimes when it’s so hard and I feel like I can’t do it I just start praying and that changes my attitude which helps. Our children are a blessing and I believe the Lord gave this to my son because he knew he could handle it and he knew this would make us better people. It’s those hard times that make you grow!

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We have a son who just turned 13 and has been on a number of medications since preschool. He was diagnosed at age 3 and even at that age had severe anger outbursts and was hard to handle. It was so bad at times that we were taught by his therapist how to literally wrap him in our arms and legs until he was calm enough to not hurt himself or cause some kind of damage. As he got older and more understanding of this outburst problem he gradually was able to cope somewhat better. However, his problem with control is still difficult especially when his Concerta given at 7 AM before school wears off and his after school methylin kicks in. We have found a really good psychiatrist who he relates to and can call at any time day or night. He has him on omega 3 three times a day and after blood work discovered a B1 dificiency is also on that. He has carefully monitored him and also is treating him for bipolar disorder, something we suspected for a while. Our son's background is complicated since he is actually our grandson who we took from his parents when he was 6 months old and adopted. One vital point in his treatment was our understanding of his problems and education on how to deal with them. It took a while before we could cope with his outbursts and as he has gotten older his lashing out verbally more than physically. I have had to walk away numerous times reallizing that he really didn't mean what he said and after he calmed down he would come to appologize. It is still difficult for him to remember to think before he speaks or reacts to a difficult or adverse situation, especially since he is entering those teenage years and hormones play a big part at this age.

I would suggest that your talking with whoever is treating your twins and discussing how best to handle your situation may help since the options are endless. Treatment ranges from behavior modification techniques, of which there are MANY, medication adjustments, to therapy where you all talk together could be a help. Main thing is don't over react when a situation comes up since this only fuels the fire.

Hang in there and God bless all of you.

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Hi All, I am a mother of a 10 1/2 year old boy who was diagnosed by a pediatric neurologist with ADHD 5 years ago. Prior to that we were told by a nurse practicioner that he was on the autistic spectrum. He had numerous developemental delays and sensory integration issues. Life was not fun with rage fits, irritability, impulsivity, school challenges and sensitivities. At the end of Kindergarten he was given an IEP with a classification of non-specific learning disabilities. We began giving him a nutrition product 6 years ago and seeing a positive difference. We did not give him enough however so in 1st grade tried meds too. Oh my what a nightmare with Adderall and Focalin, after one pill he was up till 3 AM trying to hit us and destroy the house. The lowest dose of Strattera was good. We then found out how great the nutrition product was when I became a distributor for the company and learned that he just needed more nutrition. So he has been off the Strattera and doing NO meds for the past 2 1/2 years. He is doing great and getting A's and B's in school, his immune system is strong, he has received no supplemental help at all for the past 2/12 years too. It tastes good and he only fought me once in 6 years about taking it. If you would like to learn more about it and see if it would bless your family email me at ruckert@ptd.net. It has a money back guarantee so you are risking NOTHING. I am now a happy mom with a great kid! Linda

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I have a girl, not a boy, with ADHD and experience the same anger issues described. But, to boot, I am the evil stepmom! Double whammy. My step-daughter lives with me full time and we have custody. She is 8 1/2 and has 3 other siblings that live with us. She was diagnosed at 5, although we knew much earlier on that she was off the charts ADHD. We have tried every medicine known to man. Currently she is on 15 mg of Focalin XR, but recently we added 2/5 mg of Dexmet...(the generic Focalin) at 6:30 am. I give it to her while she is laying in bed still half asleep. I go back at 6:45 and tell her it's time to get up and get ready! Oh my gosh - what a difference this has made with our mornings. She also takes another 7.5 mg of the generic Focalin at 2:00 pm before she comes home from school to do homework. This has also made homework tolerable. It still takes her forever to do it, but now she does it without the fits and without telling me how mean I am, that I never help her, etc. I would encourage you to ask your doctor about it. Good luck!

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My son is 10 and has ADD. What makes thing worse is that he has a mom (me) who also has ADD. We found that Ritilen made him too emotional and he had many mood swings, so he has been taking Concertal 36mg for about a year now. He is doing much better.

I try so hard to keep the household peaceful and happy. If I can send him to school happy, I have won half the battle. The problem I have is my husband is a military man who enforces dicipline which does not help when you have a ADD child with an attitude.

My son does not see the point of going to school and learning when he could rather just stay at home and play.

I agree with one of the other comments above that when he speaks with me in a disrespectful way, I send him to his room and tell him to sort his attitude out and come back when his behaviour is more acceptable. This usually works.

We also use the "actions have concequences" approach. We praise and reward good behaviour and take away privilages for bad. Even though I feel so hurt when he calls me a bad mother, I try and understand that the smallest task or request of him seems like a mountain to him.

Just think what would happen if God had given your child to someone else who did not have the patience and the love you do. Just the fact that we are on this site trying to get advice and reach out, makes us pretty good moms I think. It might take them a few years to realise it, but I promise they will.

Hang in there

Anthea

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It loks like everyone has the same sorts of experiences - wonderful, manageable children once the medication has kicked in and less than wonderful and manageable children before (and to a degree after) medication. Both my children take Concerta (one takes 54 mg and the other takes 36 mg plus 2.5 mg Ritalin - the first release of Concerta is not enough of a dose). The 40 minutes wait while it begins to work can be absolutely terrible - not to mention the before it is time to take the medication period.

Both my children also have Asperger's and them calling me a jerk is usually one of the nicer things that I can be called in the lag period. Our neighbourhood is often treated to a monlogue from my youngest in the mornings that would curl the hair of a sailor.

This morning we were very late in giving the younger one her medication so by the time we got to Church it still hadn't begun to take effect. Trying to stop two children killing each other in the pew during the first hymn was interesting and I ended up taking the youngest one out during the last verse - before the congregation were treated to some less than Church-going language. FIve minutes later I had a totally different child and we resumed worship/Sunday School.

Three deep breaths usually helps (glass of wine in the evening is also good) and having everything organised for getting dressed and out the door in the morning also helps in as much as it reduces confusion. One task at a time and the oven timer set for a period by which it must be completed can work. If there was a way to have the medication take effect in under 40 minutes, that would also be great - or for the first release of Concerta to be 2 or 3 mg more that would also be great.

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I have ALOT to say on this subject. I am really not that into all the medicines but not against them either.I knew when my daughter was about two that she was ADHD but would not take her to a doc to confirm. She met all but three of the criteria for severe ADHD so I really had no doubts. i researched researched and researched. I decided to use behavior modification and strict schedules. Unknown to most parents with ADD/ADHD children, most of these children respond best to having routines...doing things the same way at the same time everyday of the week and knowing that certain things will happen on certain days of the week every week. WE, parents, have to understand that we have unique children.They are going to learn differently, play differently, and respond differently than other children their own age. However, this is not an excuse to let them have bad behavior...we are still responsible for teaching them to be responsible for their behavior just like we would any other child. Sometimes it seems we are being too tough because "they can't help it" but it is up to us to TEACH them that THEY CAN HELP IT....they CAN gain control over themselves. I homeschooled my daughters so I got the added benefit of being able to give my daughter the real one on one teaching that she needed until we had some family problems and he father felt she needed to go to public school inthe ninth grade. She got into trouble with drugs...lots of impulsive behavior. This only led us to take her to pchiatric care. After being in drug rehab and seeing the amount of teenager addicted to Adderall in that place, I would NEVER allow them to put her on that medication. She was placed on a few medicines but settled on Concerta which helped her best. This past year she has been on a mood stabalizer and no ADHD meds: She has been able to hold down TWO jobs, do volunteer work several days a week, and she is an honor roll senior in HS preparing to go to college. She has stated that the behavior modifications that she learned early in life have really helped her and are still helping her now. She is still sure to write down the things she needs to do for each job or project so she does not FORGET anything. She always watches her behavior around people and is always pleasant. She can have her "meltdown" in private but not in front of people. She still tries to watch what she eats: sugar, white breads, RED DYE!!, overly processed foods, any processed meats, fast food. So thats just how I did things...all children are different: but we found the behavior modification did the most long term good for her but for a few years she did need meds while she went through harmone changes. She will be coming completely off all meds in May and plans to start college med free...we will see how it goes. (Her doctor agrees that she may be ready) NOTE: NEVER, EVER was she ALLOWED to disrespect me and say ugly things to me...even if she wanted to....I just simply did not tolerated it! I didn't say ugly things to her and she wasn't allowed to say them to me! Nobody hit in our house, so she never even thought hitting anything or anybody was an option (she actually made this comment to her doctor when talking about being upset). YOU ARE IN CONTROL OF YOUR HOME! Keep in calm...it is a place of peace for THEM and YOU! give them a trained outlet for when they are upset, something that is okay to do...your family has to come up with what is okay to do) My daughter ran when she was upset. Or exercised. That was her outlet. find a constructive outlet for all this energy...that is mostly what the anger is..pent up energy and frustration. I hope this helps somebody!!

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justbelieveyoucan said: Hi there, I understand how difficult it can be when you believe you are doing the right thing and they don't get it. I have a 10 year old boy who I have decided to stop medicating and have instead chosen behavior modification and cutting sugar back. My opinion is that sugar is a huge contributing factor to the negative symptoms of ADHD. Every child has varying degrees of ADHD and I believe that it is up to us as Mom's (parents) to follow our intuitive knowing to guide us through these seemingly difficult times. You may want to ask the boys why they believe you are "evil" etc. The biggest question to them might be "What do you need from me right now?" They are old enough to know if the meds work for them or not. They have already begun using logic, reason, analyzing and decision making at this stage of their developement. I am not a licensed professional however, I am a Hypnotherapist, ADHD myself and mother of 2 with ADHD. Know your options (all of them) research, research, research. What is positive about ADHD! I have found in my practice these children and adults to be exceptionally bright. Most have an entrepreneurial spirit. Discover about who they are as individuals and what inspires them. They will tell you if you listen. They simply do not learn the conventional way. Being quiet can be difficult because when they receive inspiration they feel a tremendous urge to share. Love that in them. I hope this gives you some relief. Gina

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Aurora said: Hi this is mi first time on ADDitude, my grandosn is 8 years old second grader, honor student, academic grades that are unbeleivable, but his behavior drives everyone crazy, he has been seen by so many doctors since he was in Pre-K, when he told the teacher in a Catholic school that she was wrong , and teaching kids with wrong information, the problem started there , He is in public school now, he is been tested so many times and evaluated by the child study team, and he fulls everone, during the testing, or evaluation he does great, and behave like a saint, until he gets to the classroom or home, he's been on every medicine that all this doctors can think of, ADD medicine give him a paradoxic effect, they work the opposite with him on the second day or so, he needs to be taken off, because he becomes 20 times more wild and hyper, the institute of child development of NJ, had try so much, he cann't handle meds, so the doctors and phsycatrist, started to give stimulants but after the third or fourth day we had to take him off the meds, because the same thing happened, so as of today he is not in any medicine, doctors want himm off for a long while because they don't have an answer for us, this is a very lovely boy very sweet, the teachers had told me , that he drive them crazy in a very polite way , with good manners, but with a very strong tone of voice, , it has been few times that he call me evil, or bad grandma, and the same with the teacher, he had tantrums in school or outbust, but always screaming saying please and thank you, but he will not stop the crying or acting like a baby, or very defiant. I nedd some help . some advice how do you go about hypnosis, or what do you think about all this.I hope to hear from you, Aurora

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justbelieveyoucan said: Hi there, I understand how difficult it can be when you believe you are doing the right thing and they don't get it. I have a 10 year old boy who I have decided to stop medicating and have instead chosen behavior modification and cutting sugar back. My opinion is that sugar is a huge contributing factor to the negative symptoms of ADHD. Every child has varying degrees of ADHD and I believe that it is up to us as Mom's (parents) to follow our intuitive knowing to guide us through these seemingly difficult times. You may want to ask the boys why they believe you are "evil" etc. The biggest question to them might be "What do you need from me right now?" They are old enough to know if the meds work for them or not. They have already begun using logic, reason, analyzing and decision making at this stage of their developement. I am not a licensed professional however, I am a Hypnotherapist, ADHD myself and mother of 2 with ADHD. Know your options (all of them) research, research, research. What is positive about ADHD! I have found in my practice these children and adults to be exceptionally bright. Most have an entrepreneurial spirit. Discover about who they are as individuals and what inspires them. They will tell you if you listen. They simply do not learn the conventional way. Being quiet can be difficult because when they receive inspiration they feel a tremendous urge to share. Love that in them. I hope this gives you some relief. Gina

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My son is 7 years old and also had terrible reactions to Adderall XR. The episodes at the end of the day were brutal and every name in the book came at me. We changed his meds to Concerta at the beginning of this school year. He seems to have a much slower withdrawal time from it, decreasing the anger and moods significantly especially in the afternoon. We also had no consequence that would work for him until we turned the doorknob around on his door. If he acted out with angry words or physically, we calmly (or as calm as possible) put him in his room and give him cooling off time. Within two days, most of that behavior subsided. My belief is that he had very clear boundaries and knew if he couldn't control what was coming out of his mouth, he would be removed from the situation. The name calling still happens, but the warning of going to his room (which he hates) is enough to stop it at that time. We've tried the positive reward thing, and unfortunately it backfires and is difficult to keep up with. However, praise when you catch them making the right choices is so very significant. Hang in there.

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If you're child wasn't so angry before the Adderall I would strongly consider trying a new medication. Our daughter was on Adderall and went from a child with ADD to a very hostile, angry, screaming I hate you, I want to live somewhere else, trying to run away from home 8 year old girl. When I started talking to other parents and going to a ADHD support group I found SO many other parents who had experienced the same thing with Adderall XR. Some of their children who had never been in trouble before even ended up in trouble with the law after starting on the medication. I googled Adderall and aggression and found a bunch of information. She is now on Vyvanse and is doing better, (Concerta did not cause the aggression either, it just didn't help her ADD). We have also put her on a mood stabilzer and that has helped alot as well.

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